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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
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LogicChristian
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The media should never breach OPSEC, and should never interfere directly in anyway that would not allow soldiers to perform their duties.
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Balko
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They should also not demoralize our troops, nor should they make unfair reports. I think the military got paranoid of their body armor when the news said the interceptor couldn't even stand up to 9mm. Even though there's always the extremely slim possibility that 9mm could pierce, but its made to stand up to assault rifle ammo pretty well.
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LogicChristian
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Balko said:
What qualifies as demoralizing?
Balko said:
I think the men and women of the military have a right to know about the equipment they're using. Moreover, I think it's advisable that they research their equipment on their own.
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Balko
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All guns jam, and there are always weak points in body armor. They were pointed out as if they were a huge eyesore.
As for demoralizing, I usually mean opinion pieces saying nothing is being done while something probably is. More applicable to blogs than news, but its not so bad since people don't always take blogs as seriously, as they're more opinion pieces.
A better example is saying the troops are murderers, threatening them and such with jail. Accidents happen, but soldiers probably don't like to think that looking at someone funny will land them in jail or something.
As for demoralizing, I usually mean opinion pieces saying nothing is being done while something probably is. More applicable to blogs than news, but its not so bad since people don't always take blogs as seriously, as they're more opinion pieces.
A better example is saying the troops are murderers, threatening them and such with jail. Accidents happen, but soldiers probably don't like to think that looking at someone funny will land them in jail or something.
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LogicChristian
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Balko said:
That sounds like something you hear more in opinion pieces than in actual news coverage.
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justanobserver
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It dont make for sensational news coverage and the ratings that go with it but I would like it if the news did more coverage on the things that are getting done - the human interest stuff/hearts and minds (a term popular in my day): schools being rebuilt, hospitals re-opened, work projects getting water and power restored, etc. thats news I like to see get covered at least once in a while.
but again, it dont make for great news stories.
sorta reminds me of that song "Dirty Laundry".
dont mean nuthin, just my opinion.
but again, it dont make for great news stories.
sorta reminds me of that song "Dirty Laundry".
dont mean nuthin, just my opinion.
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LogicChristian
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I watch old newsreels from WWII nowadays for fun sometimes, and I think that type of advertising would be useful today. Though that type of coverage often whitewashed problems, I think news today tends to overemphasize the bad. I think news needs to be balanced with setbacks in the war versus the advancements made. Perhaps when the news covers the war, they should cover it in two distinct sections.
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Balko
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Its also very rare to hear hero stories. There's that captain that took out 20 terrorists in what, like 2 minutes? But I don't remember his name. And the soldier that took a grenade for his team. I know a lot of bad things are mostly in the opinion pieces, and blogs, and websites like whatsreallyhappening.org or whatever. But the fact that on the internet, it takes a lot more searching to find good things searching through heaps of bad things is pretty bad.
I like the idea of covering two sides, but my english teacher taught me doing something like that is a ruse for being even more biased, and in a sneaky way. Such as an opinion piece in the newspaper, with a republican, and a democrat, and their ideas to fix the school system. They chose an extremist conservative, and a moderate liberal.
Really, I think the regular media itself should be balanced before they try to do the "opposing viewpoints" piece.
I like the idea of covering two sides, but my english teacher taught me doing something like that is a ruse for being even more biased, and in a sneaky way. Such as an opinion piece in the newspaper, with a republican, and a democrat, and their ideas to fix the school system. They chose an extremist conservative, and a moderate liberal.
Really, I think the regular media itself should be balanced before they try to do the "opposing viewpoints" piece.
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srev2004
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Tackling terror: Is it time to strike at PoK camps?
Vishal Thapar
CNN-IBN
Posted Tuesday , July 18, 2006 at 22:20Updated Tuesday , July 18, 2006 at 23:28
New Delhi: Mumbai has been a favoured playground for terrorists for close to three decades. After the latest outrage on July 11, the familiar question surfaces yet again: Can India hit the fountainhead of terrorism, which, as it has consistently complained, lies across its western boundaries?
India complains bitterly that terror camps still dot the landscape of Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir. The only difference is that these are now more discreet and at a farther distance from the LoC.
Infiltrations continue through the highlands and terrorists have their strongholds from the jungles of Kupwara and Bandipore to the Surankote heights.
The terrorist strike in Mumbai has exposed the Indian dilemma on whether or not to use military force to deter acts of terrorism.
Artillery bombardment of terrorist camps in PoK
Special heliborne operations to hit at key targets close to the LoC
Use of combat air power.
Isolation of Pakistan-held Northern Areas by wrecking its road links could deal a psychological blow Israel's bombardment of Lebanon over a handful of Army casualties stands in sharp contrast to Indian reticence.
While it does not hesitate in pointing an accusing finger at Pakistan, does India really have military options? Does India have the capability to impose costs on Pakistan militarily?
Experts reckon that India's military options include artillery bombardment of terrorist camps, special heliborne operations to hit at key targets close to the LoC and even the use of combat air power.
Isolation of Pakistan-held Northern Areas by wrecking its road links could deal a psychological blow and convey a tough signal. But there's a feeling that military dividend is a limited one.
Vishal Thapar
CNN-IBN
Posted Tuesday , July 18, 2006 at 22:20Updated Tuesday , July 18, 2006 at 23:28
New Delhi: Mumbai has been a favoured playground for terrorists for close to three decades. After the latest outrage on July 11, the familiar question surfaces yet again: Can India hit the fountainhead of terrorism, which, as it has consistently complained, lies across its western boundaries?
India complains bitterly that terror camps still dot the landscape of Pakistan-occupied-Kashmir. The only difference is that these are now more discreet and at a farther distance from the LoC.
Infiltrations continue through the highlands and terrorists have their strongholds from the jungles of Kupwara and Bandipore to the Surankote heights.
The terrorist strike in Mumbai has exposed the Indian dilemma on whether or not to use military force to deter acts of terrorism.
What Military Options India Can Exercise?
While it does not hesitate in pointing an accusing finger at Pakistan, does India really have military options? Does India have the capability to impose costs on Pakistan militarily?
Experts reckon that India's military options include artillery bombardment of terrorist camps, special heliborne operations to hit at key targets close to the LoC and even the use of combat air power.
Isolation of Pakistan-held Northern Areas by wrecking its road links could deal a psychological blow and convey a tough signal. But there's a feeling that military dividend is a limited one.
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Balko
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srev, did you read the title and jump in? This isn't an actual news thread, just a thread discussing the way media portrays war, soldiers, and such.
Its just, you know, we don't want a thread devoted to India or any country in particular, and its not the place for pictures.
Its just, you know, we don't want a thread devoted to India or any country in particular, and its not the place for pictures.
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