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Video---The Best First Date

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Well....doesn't it work that as a sort of "host".....guests are first?

I'll just say I'm actually a bit on the fence about this one. I get the point (that father's set an example for what "respect" ought to look like)....but it seems odd to me the way they set it up. IOW....it shouldn't be a set apart evening.....it should be woven into everyday life. It just seems......odd (right now, anyway).
 
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It reminds me of when I was in the Camp Fire Girls, and we had our annual 'Father Daughter" date night event. We made our special boxes to place our dinners in during our meetings. Then we cooked something, and placed it in the box for our date.

My father was kind...lol I mean what did I know about cooking at that age ya know?

We all ate with our Dad's, and danced afterwards.

Its something special I will never forget.

I think the video is awesome!
 
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:( (((Hannah)))

I had a great dad, too (and miss him as well). Wednesday nights were our standard "dinner date night" when I got older (maybe from 13 years old until my early 20's). That was the best way to make sure we were able to clear some time in order to see each other.

From that perspective.....I can see a lot of good in the video.
 
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Well....doesn't it work that as a sort of "host".....guests are first?

I'll just say I'm actually a bit on the fence about this one. I get the point (that father's set an example for what "respect" ought to look like)....but it seems odd to me the way they set it up. IOW....it shouldn't be a set apart evening.....it should be woven into everyday life. It just seems......odd (right now, anyway).
Sure, guests are first...most of the time. But, it sort of felt like a fishing thread to me--like, what do YOU think about it and I'll tell you if I think you're wrong. (Probably read too much into that, sorry.)

Anyway, I watched it the first time here in this thread. What I noticed first and foremost was that that father commented FIRST on how great her shoes were and how pretty she looked. (That's nice, but is it what a girl should be learning FIRST?)

It's important to me that girl knows that her father finds her intelligent, kind, courageous, hard-working...and all sorts of other good qualities...before she learns that he also thinks she looks beautiful.

Other than that...I do think it's great that a father took the time to connect with his daughter one-on-one and help her to learn that she's tops in his book!
 
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Anyway, I watched it the first time here in this thread. What I noticed first and foremost was that that father commented FIRST on how great her shoes were and how pretty she looked. (That's nice, but is it what a girl should be learning FIRST?)

Oh come ON now! The girl stuck the shoe right in his face! lol of course he is going to comment on the SHOES! Heck, telling a girl she looks pretty is an awesome way to start a DATE!

That doesn't mean the rest doesn't come later on in the date!

My father used to tell me I'm pretty all the time. He also told me he would never have to worry about me, because I was the type that could get anything accomplished that I put my mind to. I always knew how to take care of business, and I had work the ethic people will admire. He always told me I was going places. He also told me I had a true gift with people, and it showed. NOW of course Daddy was a bit prejudice, but HEY I loved it!

NOW he did on occasion say he wanted to be sure I had a man that would take care of me to, and when I gave him the utmost annoyed look I could muster? He would remind me that he was a bit old fashion in that way, and he was sure when I married it would be the dream team! LOL! At least he tried you know? He never stopped encouraging me, but date night I want to hear I'm pretty! lol maybe I'm weird that way, but that's an awesome way to start dates with me! Butter me up with the rest later!

Don't read to much into it! Making your girl feel special is important, and encouraging her comes throughout her life. I don't get the impression that this Daddy will leave anything out.
 
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I have daddy issues, so to me, calling it a "date" with a little girl of about age 4 or 5 is actually kinda creepy. I love the idea that he is involved and devoting some special attention to her, but disagree with the use of the term "date".
 
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I have daddy issues, so to me, calling it a "date" with a little girl of about age 4 or 5 is actually kinda creepy. I love the idea that he is involved and devoting some special attention to her, but disagree with the use of the term "date".

I can understand your point of view.

I have seen men describe their relationship with their children in creepy ways, and I know friends that their fathers were creepy period.

My father was a nervous nellie at times. He would laugh at himself, and remind us that if there wasn't something to worry about - he would be worrying about THAT! ^_^

Dad was a different type of egg.

In this case - he would be nervous because he would want everything to go perfectly in order to make sure I felt special. After everything started? He would calm down, and really get into it.

Dad had a father that wanted nothing to do with him, and quite honestly the man was toxic. Dad worked all his life to make sure his family knew how special we were to him. It could be he was going OUT of his way to make sure he was NOTHING like his father.

His father never liked anyone it seemed to me, and not too many people favored him either. So, I can understand my father wanting to go the opposite direction.

He came across as very intelligent, strong and firm. Yet, when it came to family? lol or his Sunday school class or seniors? Dad had a very soft under belly most didn't see until the interaction with that group.

Life has a way to erasing the stereotypes that we have been taught when you realize the background of the person. Could be this man also had a rotten relationship with his father, and wanted his family to feel the opposite.

I can more than understand your point of view, and then I have my father.

lol life gets interesting doesn't it?
 
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Oh come ON now! The girl stuck the shoe right in his face! lol of course he is going to comment on the SHOES! Heck, telling a girl she looks pretty is an awesome way to start a DATE!

That doesn't mean the rest doesn't come later on in the date!

My father used to tell me I'm pretty all the time. He also told me he would never have to worry about me, because I was the type that could get anything accomplished that I put my mind to. I always knew how to take care of business, and I had work the ethic people will admire. He always told me I was going places. He also told me I had a true gift with people, and it showed. NOW of course Daddy was a bit prejudice, but HEY I loved it!

NOW he did on occasion say he wanted to be sure I had a man that would take care of me to, and when I gave him the utmost annoyed look I could muster? He would remind me that he was a bit old fashion in that way, and he was sure when I married it would be the dream team! LOL! At least he tried you know? He never stopped encouraging me, but date night I want to hear I'm pretty! lol maybe I'm weird that way, but that's an awesome way to start dates with me! Butter me up with the rest later!

Don't read to much into it! Making your girl feel special is important, and encouraging her comes throughout her life. I don't get the impression that this Daddy will leave anything out.

Oh, okay. What I really meant to say was, "This video was wonderful."

Sorry about that.
 
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Chrys.....your point had merit as well. I do think it all needs to be a balance (that girls ought to know they're valued for more than just what they wear---how their hair is done---and how pretty they look).

While I cherish my one-on-one times with my dad (on our set evenings)....that wasn't the *only* time he paid attention to me and made me feel cherished. It was everyday we saw each other. I think that may be where I'm a bit hesitant to say, "that video is awesome!" because it may play into the idea that often comes up in marriage that "you two stopped dating" (and that means literally going out and getting dressed for the occasion). I'm more interested in how a person is treated on a regular basis.....you know?
 
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My father was a nervous nellie at times. He would laugh at himself, and remind us that if there wasn't something to worry about - he would be worrying about THAT! ^_^

Dad was a different type of egg.

In this case - he would be nervous because he would want everything to go perfectly in order to make sure I felt special. After everything started? He would calm down, and really get into it.

Dad had a father that wanted nothing to do with him, and quite honestly the man was toxic. Dad worked all his life to make sure his family knew how special we were to him. It could be he was going OUT of his way to make sure he was NOTHING like his father.

Okay......hearing this description makes a LOT of sense about the nervousness. Breaking cycles definitely is venturing into "unchartered territory"....so I can understand that unease and questioning whether things are being done properly.....effectively, etc. That takes a great deal of courage and intention (and that's very admirable).
 
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Oh, okay. What I really meant to say was, "This video was wonderful."

Sorry about that.

Chrys - I didn't mean to tick you off. I'm sorry. That wasn't my intent at all.

The shoe thing just tickled me inside. It reminded me of my son when he was young. He would get SO excited, and in one time in particular he got summer shoes. He came home while I was gardening, and stuck those shoes in my face with the biggest, cheesiest grin - he was so proud! lol his favorite super hero was on them.

I remember doing something similar to this father. I told him, "LOOK at those HANDSOME shoes...and connected to a HANDSOME guy!" Then I went for the tickle attack. Got some hugs and kisses in return.

He is 18, and I can't get away with that now. Although the other day he came home from school, and he had recently was given a spider man hoodie. The hood actually has the 'eyes' of the costume, and holes so you can see through them. No doubt he was using it as a scarf because its COLD here! I asked him if my handsome was under that hood! lol all I got this time was a snicker, and a request for FOOD!

^_^
 
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Every Friday around noon, when the weather is good, I go on an adventure walk with my son. An adventure walk is where he can choose whatever he wants to wear in the whole world and wears it, and he chooses what he wants me to wear. Nearly 100% of the time, he chooses a superhero costume (complete with mask and shield) or a Transformer outfit for him, and for me he chooses a Halloween costume, one of my running costumes, or a formal dress. Once he chose my Elsa running outfit from a race I did at Disney World, which comes complete with rhinestone cape. Why? "You look beautiful in it and that's what you wore when you won your race and came in number one!" (FYI, I came in at the bottom third, but he'll tell you I won). Another time he chose my old prom dress. Why? "Because it's so beautiful and you never wear it." Another time, he chose some sparkle sequin fabric I had set aside for a running costume, told me to wear it as a cape, and picked my Minnie ears with a bridal veil. Why? Because "It looks like you're magic and on an adventure!"

When you ask him why he chooses these things, he'll almost always tell you it's because it's the outfits that make me look "the most beautiful" or they "look special" or because I wouldn't wear them any other time "unless you are at Disney World" and he wants me to "have fun."

Then we walk from our house to the park, in our costumes, along a major road, looking totally ludicrous... But he just doesn't care because he thinks he's living out an adventure. His smile is so wide and his eyes are so bright, you'd think it was Christmas. We walk to drop some coins in the fountain (for "the angels"). Then we walk past the unassisted senior living facility, where there are always lots of senior citizens out, and give out cookies or Little Debbie cakes. From there, we head to the playground at the community center, then finally around 1, we end up at a local pizza place where we have a slice of pizza before walking back home. Along the way, we'll get smiles, laughs, confused looks, horn honks, and lots of attention, almost all of it for my son. Strangers telling him he looks amazing. People act excited that they met the "real (superhero name here)." Once a guy in a truck pulled over, jumped out of the truck, and shook his hand and thanked him "for his service" in keeping the town safe. He was so ridiculously proud of himself. Sometimes the senior citizens ask for his autograph. Runners high five him. Honestly, it's pretty cool.

One day, when he was dressed like Bumblebee and I was dressed in an adult dress that looks like Optimus Prime and Mickey ears with a plastic Halloween Optimus Prime mask (that he got me as a gift), we were stopped by a guy who writes for the local paper. He wanted to take a picture of us and use it for the front page of the paper with a little caption. I said no thanks, that I was doing this to have fun with my son, and I felt like taking a picture along with a blurb would take away from that. He said "But don't you want to show other parents things they can do with their kids to make them feel special?" And again, I said no because if you have to be told to do this to make your kids feel special, you're missing the point. You don't do stuff like this because somebody said it's a great idea, you do stuff like this because you know your kid would think it was a great idea. This is about Optimus Prime and Bumblebee taking a walk together, not me looking for a platform to tell parents how to bond with their kids.

That's how I feel about this video.

If you know to do this, you don't need to tell others to do it too. If you need to be told to do it, you're not getting the point. If you're doing this and feel the need to tell others to do the same, it's not about what you're doing to make your kids feel special, it's what you're doing to make yourself seem like a good parent to other parents.
 
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That's awesome, TW!

I think that's the other thing that's making me hesitant to say, "what an awesome video"......it seems like a formula. I agree with you---it's more important to figure out (and nurture) the child's individual interests (instead of sort of grooming them for something specific).

I know that sounds like a stick-in-the-mud response to the video....but it just doesn't sit well with me.
 
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