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What is your opinions on Victoria Secret? Would you encourage/allow your 14 year old to shop there? What about the lust issue of the model runway shows? what about the 'Sex is Back" promo sales pitch, or the new Pink Line for kids? My friend told me they were selling flavored sex gel at the front counter last week. Or do you think that its all ok as long as they dont buy the sex stuff and stick with the new teen stuff they are selling?
 

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I do not have a teenager but I work with teens and I can tell you from experience, things like that will open a can of worms that you do not want to open at such a young age. Those teens that say they're just going there for their "Pink" eventually decide at 15 they need some sexy matching underwear and then 16 they decide they want to try out wearing thongs...and the list goes on. These girls become concerned with being "sexy" suddenly have the desire to be seen as sexy to their boyfriends and male friends.

Not to mention the money issue, V-Secret is not cheap at all, you can get a cute pair of pj's or a cute sweat suit at Old Navy for much cheaper.

Basically I see no point in allowing a young girl to shop in a store that is intended for making one feel sexy. I myself even as a married women don't shop there often because the message they send women is in order to be sexy you have to stick thin, flawless, and the lingerie isn't exactly the most practical either. It's nice for a special occasion but every night...come on!
 
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A 14 year old is still depending on mom to buy her underwear, and no I wouldn't take my 14 year old to Victoria's secret. A 14 year old shouldn't be sexually active and thus sexy underwear is completely lost on them, lol. I would just stick with Target or something else of that level. When she becomes grown then she might have need of sexy underwear.

I love Victoria's secret and have shopped there since getting married. More recently I've been shopping at Target because its so much cheaper and we're low on funds, but I think VS is a great place for an adult woman to get nice underwear. Its great quality and holds up longer than Target stuff.
 
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Well, I have a 15 year-old daughter and I do not let her buy there for all of the reasons mentioned above. Another big reason is VS by their ads, pictures in their windows, and their catalogues tempt millions of boys and men to lust. Males have a really hard time resisting lust and VS exposes them to extremely arousing images of females. There is no way I am going to support any business that is in the lust business!
 
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This applys to both male and females. I maybe would buy pants with designs (not talking sexy designs, but any design at all), but why would I want anything fancy on my underware? I am the only person who sees it. The only time someone else should see your underware is when you are married, and I haven't seen to many married 14 year olds around, have you?

Basically, it is playing off the old line, 'sex sales'. I personally distest any place which does that. I only look for one thing in underware (and really, in any cothes I buy) and that is if they are comfortable, which is the main reason I do not like dress ourfits or tuxes.
 
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I used to agree with Leanna in that I would totally want to shop at VS when I was married and had a husband to "dress up" (or down ;)) for, until about a year ago the VS in my local mall completely destroyed themselves in my view. They basically have created a "wax whorehouse" i cannot think of any other way to describe it. Models with ropes around their necks and scarves between their legs etc. VERY VERY sexual and sensual. Teenage guys in the mall spending time in their because it's free. I mean... I went through thr store because I am VERY VERY into not condemning something that I know nothing about, the models out the outside were bad, but inside EWW! I left feeling physically nauseous.

I do feel jealous sometimes because some of the stuff is SOOOO Cute and some of it is not at all "sex stuff", but... because of what the company stands for I don't shop there and wouldn't reccomend a teen girl shopping there regardless. Like whether or not they crossed the lines the purpose of VS and their mo is SEX! :p

TOTAL sidenote: I worked in a lingerie store last year and it was soooo fun, and soooo tasteful! Like yeah we sold lingerie, but it was to make women FEEL GOOD and FEEL SEXY, not to defraud themselves to get a guy. It would make me sad and sick though when I HAD to sell lingerie to like 14 - 16 year old girls who'd tell me they're buying it as a presetn for their boyfriend, and i just wanted to cry. :(
 
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at 14 - NO! 15 - NO 16-no 17-no 18-no

however, once they are an adult - there is not too much you can do unless you are the one paying for their clothes or they live at home.

Once married - no problem - or once they are an adult. Younger than that - like someone else said - it can open a can of worms...

Plus - what real reason is there for a 14 year old to be wearing a thong? or a hardly covering anything bra?
 
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I consider most lingerie shops like Victoria's Secret to be places for grown people to get lingerie they plan to show off. My teenagers just need the basics... so no we wouldn't shop there or any of the other lingerie stores. If my daughter wandered in and bought a pair of panties I don't think I'd get in a tizzy about it, or assume she was on the road to ruin. It's just not where I would go to buy her underwear.
 
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I have a 16 yr old daughter who thinks it is crazy to spend a bundle on undies. She says, "I'm the only one who is going to see them anyway". Isn't that the point? Who else will see them.

As a married woman, I like comfortable, pretty undergarments that my dh can enjoy too but my comfort must come first. However, I refuse to shop VS and support their sex sells ads. The one in our mall is usually tastefully done but the ads on tv, the catalogs, etc are harming our boys and men...and society in general. Of course those women are wonderful to look at but it goes against the word of God. Men are lead to lust when looking at them, therefore causing harm. Moms that don't have sons may not understand the true harm this is doing.

I am not against pretty undergarments but I will get them from places that don't abuse the right to sell them. I want my 16yr old to understand the beauty of a woman is not in the thong she is wearing!
 
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I love Victoria's Secret bras. They are much better quality and better fitting than anything I can buy at Wal-Mart or Target. However, VS is expensive, and we are also short on funds, so I don't shop there very often. (They used to have some jeans that I liked, though, that fit me really well and were reasonably priced.) Alas, Wal-Mart will have to suffice for now.

I just wanted to share an experience that I had recently. I went into a VS store to buy some lotion. They recently brought back a fragrance that I really like that had been dicontinued for some time. Since I live 100 miles from a store and usually have to order online and pay shipping, I took advantage of the opportunity that I had that day of being in a mall where there was a store. Unfortunately, I also had my three kids (ages 6, 4, and 4) with me. I normally don't shop with them but wait until their dad can stay home with them while I go by myself. That day I had to take them, though. Anyway, I thought that I could just go in quickly and buy the lotion and it would be no big deal. However, as we were leaving, my son (the six-year-old) noticed one of the mannequins, which was wearing skimpy lingerie. He stared at it and said, "She's so pretty, Mom." I had the hardest time getting him to quit looking at it and leave the store. I realized that it had been a bad idea to go there with young kids--especially a little boy--and I don't plan to do so again.

If I had a teenage daughter, I probably wouldn't buy VS stuff for her or let her shop at the store or look at the catalogs. There are too many sexually suggestive things, with which a 14-year-old doesn't need to be bombarded. In fact, I sometimes get catalogs in the mail, and I don't leave them lying around even where my husband can look at them (at his request) because of the provocative poses in them. He doesn't mind if I buy stuff from there, though; he just doesn't want to be tempted if he sees other women wearing it.
 
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There are too many sexually suggestive things, with which a 14-year-old doesn't need to be bombarded. In fact, I sometimes get catalogs in the mail, and I don't leave them lying around even where my husband can look at them (at his request) because of the provocative poses in them. He doesn't mind if I buy stuff from there, though; he just doesn't want to be tempted if he sees other women wearing it.

You are so blessed to have such a husband. Did he do this on his own, or did he have some kind of teaching about guarding his eyes and thoughts?
 
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Sophia7 said:
In fact, I sometimes get catalogs in the mail, and I don't leave them lying around even where my husband can look at them (at his request) because of the provocative poses in them. He doesn't mind if I buy stuff from there, though; he just doesn't want to be tempted if he sees other women wearing it.

Bravo for your husband!!!!!!!! What a blessing. Also, perhaps that happening with your young son was a gift from God to keep you aware of how easily boy's can be pulled into porn (it starts somewhere). It sounds like that experience made you much wiser to the trappings surrounding young men. Blessings, T
 
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Joyfull said:
You are so blessed to have such a husband. Did he do this on his own, or did he have some kind of teaching about guarding his eyes and thoughts?


He's a pastor and hears about a lot of stuff that goes on in people's lives. We try to be very careful about guarding our thoughts.
 
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tp65 said:
Bravo for your husband!!!!!!!! What a blessing. Also, perhaps that happening with your young son was a gift from God to keep you aware of how easily boy's can be pulled into porn (it starts somewhere). It sounds like that experience made you much wiser to the trappings surrounding young men. Blessings, T

Yes, I think so. Since I grew up with two sisters and no brothers, it has been an educational process for me to have the responsibility of raising a son. I never realized until recently how early boys can be influenced by the things that they see. I also have to be vigilant about what he watches on TV--especially sports. He loves to watch football or basketball with his dad, but the commercials are awful. We change the channel whenver something inappropriate comes on.
 
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Sophia7 said:
Yes, I think so. Since I grew up with two sisters and no brothers, it has been an educational process for me to have the responsibility of raising a son. I never realized until recently how early boys can be influenced by the things that they see. I also have to be vigilant about what he watches on TV--especially sports. He loves to watch football or basketball with his dad, but the commercials are awful. We change the channel whenver something inappropriate comes on.
Does your husband preach on the seemingly innocent ways that can trap a man or boy? I am just curious bc our pastors tend to stay away (not always) from convicting men of the so-called innocent peaks.
 
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tp65 said:
Does your husband preach on the seemingly innocent ways that can trap a man or boy? I am just curious bc our pastors tend to stay away (not always) from convicting men of the so-called innocent peaks.
You may want to answer that question in the for women only thread of "women struggling with their husbands porn addictions". I didn't mean to change the subject of this one.
Thanks
 
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