VERY Specific to our depression disorders-how to deal with anger?

[teresa]

Very Specifically directed towards ppl with depression disorders.

Anyone else with diagnosed depression disorders, dealing with anger issues?

Many a degreed professional have told me over the years, that my depression is anger turned inwards.

the reasons can get pretty deep.....

any thoughts and reflections on this issue from my peers in recovery?

 

[Rachel Rachel]

Very Specifically directed towards ppl with depression disorders.

Anyone else with diagnosed depression disorders, dealing with anger issues?

Many a degreed professional have told me over the years, that my depression is anger turned inwards.

the reasons can get pretty deep.....

any thoughts and reflections on this issue from my peers in recovery?

Yes, I think depression can be anger turned inward, in which case you need to start forgiving people, including yourself. One can also have a genetic predisposition for depression.

Have you ever listened to or read any of Dr. Caroline Leaf's material on toxic thoughts and how to create new neural pathways?

 

[teresa]

Yes, I think depression can be anger turned inward, in which case you need to start forgiving people, including yourself. One can also have a genetic predisposition for depression.

Have you ever listened to or read any of Dr. Caroline Leaf's material on toxic thoughts and how to create new neuropathways?

No, I havent, but I am well aware of creating neuropathways, from my days coaching gymnastics.

If we repeat a movement hundreds of times, at some point, we create a neurocircuit that remembers that move.

The dream is to do a routine perfectly, and even better, on a sort of auto pilot called "flow."

Its a state where we aren't thinking, bc our body just takes over and we just flow through the routine perfectly, no worries, or hesitations.

That happened to me once on bars, and its one of the very best times of my life!

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Very Specifically directed towards ppl with depression disorders.

Anyone else with diagnosed depression disorders, dealing with anger issues?

Many a degreed professional have told me over the years, that my depression is anger turned inwards.

the reasons can get pretty deep.....

any thoughts and reflections on this issue from my peers in recovery?

I used to use the anger to medicate my depression because it would make me demotivated, I even justified it because of something I read in Jeremiah about the bones being on fire and OCDism to just say whatever etc.

I found over time, cultivating the peace described in Philippians 4:4-9 with God in my heart helped a lot. There definitely is no quick fix solution for depression with anger issues, I know that much.

 

[teresa]

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[Rachel Rachel]

No, I havent, but I am well aware of creating neuropathways, from my days coaching gymnastics.

If we repeat a movement hundreds of times, at some point, we create a neurocircuit that remembers that move.

The dream is to do a routine perfectly, and even better, on a sort of auto pilot called "flow."

Its a state where we aren't thinking, bc our body just takes over and we just flow through the routine perfectly, no worries, or hesitations.

That happened to me once on bars, and its one of the very best times of my life!

You might want to check Dr Leaf out. Her teaching is totally Biblically based.

 

[chaoticfirefly]

I am, but I don't think it comes from depression for me, but external things and it being learned.

I deal by deep breathing exercises. And I go for runs and play video games.

 

[Jeshu]

Yes depression and anger are usually closely related. Depressed people have three main culprits in their lives, fear, anger and hurt, with the hurt on the bottom of it neatly protected in its painful package by our anger which in turn is kept in place by our fears.

i found that to deal with our anger we firstly have to deal with our fears. However not by suppressing or denying them or trying to cope regardless off, but rather by breaking them down with God's loving grace.

i want to stress this aspect of our healing, for fears die when God's perfect love comes down from Heaven into our hearts, it is best to understand that in those parts of our lives where we still fear there we have not yet met up with His gracious light.

Once God's graceful love begins to enter these hot places in our lives - He will begin to dismantle our fears - the anger suppressed underneath those fears will come popping up like a ugly Jack in the box and need to be carefully, lovingly and graciously dealt with.

We have to remember that our anger has to do with hurt. Usually the hurt of un-forgiven sins or shortcomings. Like past abuse and needing to find grace for our attacker(s) or ourselves for getting ourselves in such a situation, major disappointments, or wrong choices that brought major dramas into our lives, (self) blame and (self) hatred usually lay dormant in these angry parts of our lives.

This is when God's love that we acquired to deal with our fears comes in handy. For anger released to Jesus breaks its neck on God's grace. The more of God's grace we hand out to others, and of course ourselves and God as well in our angry times, the more our angers will begin to subside, and our hurts will finally come up as we can begin to deal with the root causes of our depressive states.

i found as someone who suffers from P.T.S.D trauma that rage and anger have been the main culprits causing me terrifying fears that sealed the road to healing. So if you find that you have an anxiety problem and big angry outbursts, or rages at others, God or yourself, then you can be assured that much hurt and pain lays in the past that needs taking care of and proper healing. God's loving grace is essential in your life to get such fixed and put into place.

over a period of 6 months i dealt with most of my paralyzing fears by taking myself in my fearful state to God and learned to drink in His gracious love over me the little weasel i thought i was. This released the anger, blame, self hate and i worked through all my anger issues and let God's love dismantle them as they came out. After i released all my fears and anger, i learned the truth and saw that my painful life was build on lies and wickedness, so i died to my fears and to my anger and let those parts of my life go in favour of the new that Jesus had on offer.

Once His grace filled those hot hurtful places in my life i began to heal. i have had no more rage left and no more psychosis to suffer - though under extreme stress hallucinations and psychotic thinking do return again - still i don't rage anymore whatsoever, after 45 years of raging and freaking my fears big time i have finally settled down and am able to catch a good night sleep again. i'm very happy about that.

So i advise anyone who struggles with unresolved anger to get proper counseling and to carefully release the inner Pandora box into the pit below instead of sending ourselves there time and again in our depressed state. Anxiety and anger can be successfully dealt with when we dare to apply God's gracious love to God Himself first of all, others and ourselves.

Much love doing the loving.

 

[Tempura]

We can use anger. Just like shame, it can serve a purpose. It can drive us, it can guide us, it can make us determined. But when we're slaves to anger (or shame), we know how it is entirely different then: it eats us, and it always demands something horrible. When we allow the anger the rule over us, it just can't be satisfied until it gets whatever it wants, which is usually some kind of perversion of perception of "justice". We have to have the world bow down to us. It never gives, it never helps, it always takes and always blinds us. In that case, we're going to have to WANT to let go of that anger and its demands. Even if we still feel it.

I don't know about tricks. But we can observe our feelings in a way, by "stepping out" of it and looking at them - how they operate and what they do. As if we're looking at a machine.

 

[teresa]

@Jeshu @Tempura , did you ever find yourself not fulfilling your potential, or holding yourself back?

do you ever think it was bc you felt you didn't deserve good things in life?

can this all be due to anger at ourselves-this self defeating behaviour?

 

[Tempura]

1) Yes.

2) Not sure if I felt like I didn't deserve things. Sure, I don't think I deserved much, but that wasn't the main reason. Most of all it was just about giving in to fear or shame.

Nowadays I'm more angry at myself for not pulling myself together, and I'm pretty sure it's not the other way around. Then again who knows.

 

[Jeshu]

@Jeshu @Tempura , did you ever find yourself not fulfilling your potential, or holding yourself back?

do you ever think it was bc you felt you didn't deserve good things in life?

can this all be due to anger at ourselves-this self defeating behaviour?

Very much so. i think suffering mental illness robs us of much potential especially anxiety attacks. Fear is really bad at stopping us from making good decisions. Fear has wrecked opportunities in my life so many times, terrible!

i used to think i was a vessel of dishonor specifically designed to go to hell for ever. That is how bad that thinking got in my life.

it is understanding that we get good life through Christ's merits not our own that good life came my way in the end not through self effort.

Peace and blessings