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How vulnerable would you have to be for a given Evolution to work?

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  • I think Evolution works regardless of how vulnerable you are

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Gottservant

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Hi there,

So this is straight up probability: a diversified nest egg, is less likely to suffer a loss. The same is true of Evolution: a variation of the nuance adapted, ensures the young will more likely live on. I'm wondering if you can see the connection. It's basically introducing the concept of "focus" to "Evolution"; "focused Evolution" is more likely to address the changing nature of selection pressure - that is, it is more responsive than responding to a selection pressure that is static (in nature). If every selection pressure was static, responding to other selection pressures would build on previous adaptation to that static state - the reality is that selection pressures are dynamic, fluid. There are threats and dangers and there is no guarantee that humans will come from monkeys again.

By focusing Evolution, a path develops, that addresses both selection pressure and the likelihood that the selection pressure will change; in simple statistics, what works for Evolution without focus, works more with focus. You are aware there is more you could do, even reading this, not because your Evolution is in jeopardy, but simply because you know that "you don't know" and in principle preparing for selection pressure, is better than not preparing at all. It's the same as the Monty Hall problem, where probability is gradually increased; except in the case of Evolution, what is revealed is that your current niche in evolutional terms is gradually revealed to be unproductive (at the very least, "on its own").
You just can't perfect your response to a selection pressure, without more information about that selection pressure - variety gives you that information.

We have to take care that we do not become satisfied, with a particular adaptation, is all I'm saying here; because in principle, those things that vary their response to Evolution, are more likely to survive. Jesus talked about this kind of variety when He talked about virgins, saying "some are born that way, some are made that way, others decide to be that way" There was no "one correct virgin" to Him. For Him, the better virgin was the one that struggled within, with their gender bias and kept focus on having a ready response to the mastery of that gender. I am saying the same thing here: we need to have a concrete way of responding to Evolutional variety. Just as every nation has a king, so every nation has an "Evolved" identity, based on its own nature and recognition of that nature in the nature around it.

Evolution has a great opportunity to tell people, about their nation's nature - the strengths and weaknesses of it. Just saying "it's probable I will evolve, even without variety" is nothing
but hubris, especially when you consider how much nature is around every nation, whether it varies a little or a lot. I want to be first to cheer Evolutionists on, that our variety matters; the same way LGBTQ communities matter or kinds of bikie gangs matter, responding to community and distinction selection pressures respectively. We will always be able to produce more variety, if we focus on the variety that Wisdom gave us, even if we don't immediately believe in God. God does not vary, but His words do and for all I have said here, you should probable be aware that your words are the thing that in principle need most to "evolve".

For this (the evolution of words) we have the words of Jesus, which He shares with us in the gospel "will never change", the copies (of Jesus' words) may change, but what He said will not! It's too late to change what cannot be change, so I said to you that the copies may change. This is a different kind of Evolution; which it would be good for you to grasp - but first I think we just need to establish, that variety is important (as the saying goes "variety is the spice of life"). When we start to discern what is adding to our selection pressure burden, then perhaps it will make sense, to vary other responses to Evolution, but for now we know precisely what Evolution predicts the most: that in the absence of a need to change, mankind will just go back its least adaptive state.

Maybe you think you are above the need to vary Evolution; but that is not my practice, I constantly search for ways to prolong the life of the things I have come to believe. Not that I believe indefinitely in things which relate to survival, but there are things I keep, knowing that they are more than simple belief. I am not trying to distract you from Evolution, I am trying to lead you along a path, that response through word leads you to - if you are willing to follow the evidence found there along it. If you want to vary even the slightest bit, because of what I have written here, my job will be largely done. I am confident you will find a reason to evolve in Jesus Christ, if terms are properly set out. I would even go so far as to say that the greatest you can evolve, is accepting the vulnerability Jesus accepted, not just for Him, but for yourself.

I hope this helps.
 

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There are threats and dangers and there is no guarantee that humans will come from monkeys again.
Your arguments might bit more sense if you didn't include such creationists' prattle.
 
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