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SonOfThunder said:
Oh boy!!! what Christians do to make it all seem so harmless.

Sorry, but I dont agree with sugar coating a pagen ritual with God's word.

Be ye separted

I love Jesus Christ and what he did for me. < full stop

James
Please explain SoT. I don't know what the pagan roots might be.
 
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LostnFound said:
Please explain SoT. I don't know what the pagan roots might be.

Origin of Valentine's Day began in Ancient Rome, February 14th was a holiday to honor Juno, Queen of the Roman Gods and Goddesses.





In Ancient Rome, February 14th was a holiday to honor Juno, Queen of the Roman Gods and Goddesses. The Feast of Lupercalia started the next day.



During these times boys and girls were segregated. However, the young people had a custom that began on the eve of the Festival of Lupercalia. The girl’s names were written on pieces of paper and inserted into jars. Each boy then drew a girl’s name from the jar and they were partners throughout the Festival. After being paired, the children would often continue to see each other throughout the year and on occasion even fell in love and got married.

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Emperor Claudius II of Rome, also known as Claudius the Cruel was having a difficult time recruiting men as soldiers. He believed that the men did not want to leave their sweethearts and cancelled all engagements and marriages throughout Rome. St. Valentine, a priest of Rome at the time, secretly married couples. He was eventually caught, arrested and condemned. He was beaten to death and beheaded on February 14th, around the year 270. Lupercalia was a feast to a heathen God. Pastors and priests of the early Christian church did away with the pagan custom by replacing the names of the girls with the names of saints. They chose St. Valentine’s Day as the day of celebration for the new feast


Hope this explains,


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SonOfThunder said:
Oh boy!!! what Christians do to make it all seem so harmless.

Sorry, but I dont agree with sugar coating a pagen ritual with God's word.

Be ye separted

I love Jesus Christ and what he did for me. < full stop

James
I'm still obligated to get my wife a Valentine gift.
 
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staugustine68 said:
I'm still obligated to get my wife a Valentine gift.

the trouble really lies with men who don't treat women like they are special more often.

Advertising, traditions, females expectations can be all wiped away with you taking more time to make special occasions all year. If you explain that you love her and say that this day is from pagen backgrounds and tell her how you feel about it....BUT do something on other occasions.

I am sure she will quit turning her back on you on Valentines Day just because you didn't bend to pressure.


James

I'm not married by the way, nor have I had a girlfriend yet so have no idea how it might be.
 
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James,

I'm going to be up-front with you.

I'm clueless on the Pagen studies, I pay no attention to that subject.

About the only thing I know about Valentines is that my wife expects something on that day, besides, trading cards when I was in elementery school.

In my mind's eye, I'm not celebrating a Pagen ritual.

I'd hate to ask how you feel about Halloween. :D
 
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staugustine68 said:
James,

I'm going to be up-front with you.

I'm clueless on the Pagen studies, I pay no attention to that subject.

About the only thing I know about Valentines is that my wife expects something on that day, besides, trading cards when I was in elementery school.

In my mind's eye, I'm not celebrating a Pagen ritual.

I'd hate to ask how you feel about Halloween. :D


Halloween, Christmas, Valentines Day, Birthdays, National Days were all never celebrated by my family. On occasions we would be taught that these days represented a past that God would not be pleased about. No matter how much we sugar coat things I think it should be our responsibility to look into them and find some level of integrity for God.

I am ex Jehovah's Witness and really haven't studied into Halloween. I do think about Jesus and what He has done for me around Easter, this year I would love to take communion for the first time if my pastor will let me take it.

I dont mean to offend, it;s just my opinions and they may not be right.


James
 
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SonOfThunder said:
Halloween, Christmas, Valentines Day, Birthdays, National Days were all never celebrated by my family. On occasions we would be taught that these days represented a past that God would not be pleased about. No matter how much we sugar coat things I think it should be our responsibility to look into them and find some level of integrity for God.

I am ex Jehovah's Witness and really haven't studied into Halloween. I do think about Jesus and what He has done for me around Easter, this year I would love to take communion for the first time if my pastor will let me take it.

I dont mean to offend, it;s just my opinions and they may not be right.


James

No offence taken at all, I do respect your opinon.

Halloween is my favorite time of year. Childhood memories play a big part.
My wife does NOT like what halloween stands for, she doesn't want me to celebrate that at all.

I didn't know about Valentines until you posted the true meaning, and I thank you for that. My wife, simply, won't accept that.
 
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Not everyone looks into the pagan part of a holiday. Everyone can use this as an opportunity to tell people around them how they feel about them and it doesn't have to be a spouse or a boyfriend/girlfriend. You an even use it as an opportunity to share God's love to others.
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