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Vaccine recipients had lower rates of non–COVID-19 mortality than did unvaccinated persons
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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 76316791" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>These aren't surprising results.</p><p></p><p>Much like other health practices, a person who takes one aspect of health more seriously, is likely to take other aspects of health more seriously as well. (obviously that's not true in every case, but just as a general rule)</p><p></p><p>For instance, if you have a person who's a "nutrition nut" and very strict with what they will and won't eat, it's unlikely that they'll be polishing off a 5th of whiskey every night.</p><p></p><p>Similarly, if you have a person who's an exercise fanatic, they're unlikely to be pack-a-day smokers.</p><p></p><p></p><p>An interesting survey out of the UK:</p><p><a href="https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.17.20248396v1" target="_blank">Negative vaccine attitudes and intentions to vaccinate against Covid-19 in relation to smoking status: a population survey of UK adults</a></p><p></p><p>Results: Relative to never and former smokers, current smokers reported significantly greater mistrust of vaccine benefit, were more worried about unforeseen future effects, had greater concerns about commercial profiteering, and had a stronger preference for natural immunity (<em>B</em>adj<em>s</em> 0.16-0.36, <em>p</em><0.001). Current smokers were more likely to be uncertain (27.6% vs. 22.7% of never smokers: RRadj 1.43 [95%CI 1.31-1.56]; vs. 19.3% of former smokers: RRadj 1.55 [1.41-1.73]) or unwilling (21.5% vs. 11.6% of never smokers: RRadj 2.12 [1.91-2.34]; vs. 14.7% of former smokers: RRadj 1.53 [1.37-1.71]) to receive a Covid-19 vaccine.</p><p></p><p>So, bad ideas when it comes to health choices are rarely ad-hoc, but more representative of a pattern of behavior/negligence.</p><p></p><p>This example is pretty rich with irony...</p><p></p><p>Smokers (who willfully consume something that we know comes from untrustworthy companies, that we know has long term health effects, and that we know is a profiteering industry) are more concerned than non-smokers about the vaccine (and they base their objections on literally all of the boxes that smoking checks with regards to their espoused concerns)</p><p></p><p>In fact, now that I look at this...this particular survey could be a good subject for a thread of it's own, I may go start one <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite1" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 76316791, member: 123415"] These aren't surprising results. Much like other health practices, a person who takes one aspect of health more seriously, is likely to take other aspects of health more seriously as well. (obviously that's not true in every case, but just as a general rule) For instance, if you have a person who's a "nutrition nut" and very strict with what they will and won't eat, it's unlikely that they'll be polishing off a 5th of whiskey every night. Similarly, if you have a person who's an exercise fanatic, they're unlikely to be pack-a-day smokers. An interesting survey out of the UK: [URL='https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.12.17.20248396v1']Negative vaccine attitudes and intentions to vaccinate against Covid-19 in relation to smoking status: a population survey of UK adults[/URL] Results: Relative to never and former smokers, current smokers reported significantly greater mistrust of vaccine benefit, were more worried about unforeseen future effects, had greater concerns about commercial profiteering, and had a stronger preference for natural immunity ([I]B[/I]adj[I]s[/I] 0.16-0.36, [I]p[/I]<0.001). Current smokers were more likely to be uncertain (27.6% vs. 22.7% of never smokers: RRadj 1.43 [95%CI 1.31-1.56]; vs. 19.3% of former smokers: RRadj 1.55 [1.41-1.73]) or unwilling (21.5% vs. 11.6% of never smokers: RRadj 2.12 [1.91-2.34]; vs. 14.7% of former smokers: RRadj 1.53 [1.37-1.71]) to receive a Covid-19 vaccine. So, bad ideas when it comes to health choices are rarely ad-hoc, but more representative of a pattern of behavior/negligence. This example is pretty rich with irony... Smokers (who willfully consume something that we know comes from untrustworthy companies, that we know has long term health effects, and that we know is a profiteering industry) are more concerned than non-smokers about the vaccine (and they base their objections on literally all of the boxes that smoking checks with regards to their espoused concerns) In fact, now that I look at this...this particular survey could be a good subject for a thread of it's own, I may go start one :) [/QUOTE]
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