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Va. Trooper Wounded, Man Killed in House Raid

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Suspect Allegedly Planned To Poison Drinking Water


By Maria Glod
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, February 6, 2003


A Virginia state trooper was wounded and another man was killed during a shootout Tuesday night that occurred as authorities raided the Eastern Shore home of a man who reportedly had threatened to poison the state's drinking water, authorities said yesterday

FBI officials said agents have not found any "credible evidence which indicates an actual threat to the water supply." They said Ipolito Campos, who is suspected of making that threat, was arrested Tuesday on unrelated fraud charges for allegedly using a false Social Security number and a fake alien registration number.

The wounded trooper, H.A. Chambers, 32, who worked in Mathews County and has been with the department for five years, was shot in the arm and is in good condition at an Eastern Shore hospital, Virginia State Police spokesman Larry Hill said. Authorities have not released the name of the man who was killed, and Hill said police have not yet verified his identity.

Authorities released few details about what happened inside the trailer on Kellam Drive in rural Accomack County before shots were fired about 9:40 p.m. Phil Mann, chief division counsel at the FBI field office in Norfolk, would not say how many people were inside the home, how many were armed or who fired the shot that struck Chambers. He also would not say how many law enforcement officials returned fire. Mann said the investigation is continuing.


The investigation into Campos's alleged threat began Jan. 18 when an informant, who has not been identified by police, walked into the Acco mack Sheriff's Office and said a man known as "Polo" said he was from an "Arabian" country and had been sent to poison Virginia's water, according to an affidavit filed in U.S. District Court in Norfolk in connection with the arrest warrant. The informant reported that "Polo further stated that if he did not poison the water, somebody would kill him," said the affidavit, written by FBI Special Agent Jason W. Freed of the Joint Terrorism Task Force
Officials at the seafood company later told officials that Polo's full name was Ipolito Campos and that he initially had worked at a processing plant but last fall started working on the company's fishing boats, according to the affidavit. Campos was fired in December after failing a random drug test while the boat was docked in Atlantic City, Freed's affidavit said.

U.S. Immigration and Naturalization Service officials told police that they had no record of anyone named Ipolito Campos and that the resident alien number he had used at Eastern Shore Seafood was fake, according to the affidavit. Authorities also learned that the Social Security number Ipolito used belonged to someone else

Prosecutors said in court yesterday that Campos was an illegal immigrant from Mexico.

On Tuesday, Freed obtained a criminal complaint against Campos and a warrant to search the trailer. Agents and troopers went in that night. Accomack is one of the poorest and most rural parts of Virginia. There is little industry in the area aside from farming, fishing and two poultry plants.

According to the affidavit
Ipolito lived with two men who went by the names Falco and Carlos. Authorities said they learned that Carlos's full name is Richard Guillen and that he is an employee at Eastern Shore Seafood.

Employees at the seafood company declined to comment yesterday.

Ipolito was charged with misuse of an identification document and Social Security fraud



before i coment on this to before you decide you question my faITH as a christen
let me state as before i do not have nothing against imigrants whocome here legaly

hmm imgine that a ileagel immergrant threatening to poision the water supply and using a false ssn # and false id and to think i was making i t all up that the ilegel immigrants cant get a ssn# i supose i will be told i have no compassion oh yes and this article comes from a liberel news paper

but lets not arrest him or deport him that whould be mean



article here
 

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The fact the individual was an illegal immigrant does not necessarily have bearing on the crime, it's just background information. Moreover it appears to be implied he has a mental condition, which is much more relevant.

It's simplistic to say the problem of illegal immigration could be solved if they'd just come here legally. That involves paperwork and many of them are not functionally literate. The "coyotes"---people smugglers---talk a good game and convince them to work with them. Most who get here are hard workers and law abiding and take jobs Americans prefer not to take.
 
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Originally posted by Lacmeh
Illegal immigrants can´t get a valid SSN through legal means, that´s why the illegal immigrant in the article had a FALSE one. Sometimes I have to assume, that thinking must hurt you badly. Otherwise I don´t know, why you post such things.





lol w/e:rolleyes: :rolleyes:
 
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[font=Verdana,Helvetica,Arial]<B>By Jennifer Dobner and Pat Reavy </B>[/font]
[font=Verdana,Helvetica,Arial]Deseret News staff writers[/font]

(exerpt) Jones, 44, pulled over the car with Barnes and his friend Sunday about 3:30 p.m. after he spotted the driver drinking and driving, according to reports from the sheriff's office. The entire traffic stop was recorded on an audio tape in Jones' car.
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The driver was given a field sobriety test and failed. Jones handcuffed him and placed him in the back seat of his car. That's when Barnes allegedly grabbed a high-powered handgun or rifle and pointed it at the deputy, Garfield County Sheriff Than Cooper said.
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; According to Cooper, Jones can be heard on the tape ordering Barnes three times to put down his weapon. The next sound is the exchange of gunfire.
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Barnes was shot in the chest and had a bullet lodged in his lung when he arrived at the hospital. The shot that struck Jones penetrated his bulletproof vest.
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; The bullet pierced Jones' heart, according to a search warrant filed in court Monday. Deputies believe Barnes' weapon was loaded with so-called "Rhino" ammunition, which is "designed to pierce through bulletproof materials," court documents state.
&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; Barnes and the second man were arrested Sunday after being spotted by a helicopter on Smokey Mountain Road, between Escalante and Big Water. Court documents state police recovered several weapons from the truck the men were driving, including a Ruger Blackhawk revolver and two shotguns, along with some .44 magnum ammunition. A carton of beer was also found in the truck. Between the site of the shooting and the point of arrest, police found empty beer cans, pools of beer and blood along the road.



Full Story: http://deseretnews.com/dn/view/0,1249,455028123,00.html



This crime was committed by a white American citizen with a perfectly valid SSN.&nbsp; Would it have been less acceptable if the shooter had been an Undocumented Immigrant?&nbsp; Do you think that the 5 kids who lost their dad over a petty offense citation care what nationality their father's murderer is?&nbsp; Crime is crime, and to portray that UDI's are more likely to commit heinous crimes is a false portrayal that has absolutely no bearing in the debate over immigration policies.&nbsp;

(I used the above case in&nbsp;because I was directly involved in the location, tracking, and apprehension of the shooter and his accomplice.)
 
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