If i use someone elses ipod that they download music that they do not pay for and put things that free like songs on it then put it on my PS3 is it still stealing becuase i am using a IPOD that had stolen songs on it?
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Using someone else''s ipod
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BUCKFANDAN
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naw its just like borrowing a CD....My friends from church and I trade our songs all the time. I buy music aswell, its just I like....TONS of music lol
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^^ were you being sarcastic?
if not, it is illegal to borrow a CD from a friend and copy it for yourself, its called copyright infringement or stealing/theft.. basically if you havnt paid for it you shouldnt have it..
even when you do buy a CD you still dont have rights to do what you want with it,ie you cant play it in public, cant copy it, etc etc.. you pretty much just own a licsence to play the CD for your own self.
im not sure if its like that in the states, but here in Australia its pretty strict. Ive got myself into a habit of buying CD's now.
if not, it is illegal to borrow a CD from a friend and copy it for yourself, its called copyright infringement or stealing/theft.. basically if you havnt paid for it you shouldnt have it..
even when you do buy a CD you still dont have rights to do what you want with it,ie you cant play it in public, cant copy it, etc etc.. you pretty much just own a licsence to play the CD for your own self.
im not sure if its like that in the states, but here in Australia its pretty strict. Ive got myself into a habit of buying CD's now.
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BUCKFANDAN
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yeah its that way in the states....if you really wanna go the complete legal way, you can copy the songs, but u gotta be sure ur friend isnt listening to the same song as you at the same time....THEN is when it becomes illegal :X
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Music is copyrighted (almost always) and buying the CD, or buying the songs on the internet, is like purchasing a license to own the copyrighted material. If you reproduce copyrighted material for anyone but yourself, it is against the law. That means copying a friends CD is illegal. Copying songs off someone else's iPod is illegal. If they give or let you borrow you the CD, it's not illegal as long as a license was purchased for that particular CD. If they copy it themselves and give it to you, it's illegal. Basically anything that involves reproducing the CD is illegal.
The only exception is if you make a copy for YOURSELF (assuming you own the original). That's why putting your CD on an MP3 player isn't illegal, because even though you're technically reproducing it, it's for yourself and you own the copyright license.
Will you be arrested and put in jail? Very unlikely.
Is it against the law and therefore a sin? Yes.
So let your conscience decide. You can spin it however you want (record label gets most of the money anyway, the band is rich already, they don't need my money...blahblah), but in the end it comes down to it being against the law, and the only laws Christians have permission to break are laws that prohibit us from worshiping Him.
The only exception is if you make a copy for YOURSELF (assuming you own the original). That's why putting your CD on an MP3 player isn't illegal, because even though you're technically reproducing it, it's for yourself and you own the copyright license.
Will you be arrested and put in jail? Very unlikely.
Is it against the law and therefore a sin? Yes.
So let your conscience decide. You can spin it however you want (record label gets most of the money anyway, the band is rich already, they don't need my money...blahblah), but in the end it comes down to it being against the law, and the only laws Christians have permission to break are laws that prohibit us from worshiping Him.
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I am not sure everyone got my question. I dont mean that i am the one stealing. I ment if i use the ipod to put other things on my ps3 i.e files,photos ect...
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lol of course its not illegal to USE the ipod that has stolen songs on it...Its ok if you listen to it, put leagal stuff on it, take legal stuff off it....just dont copy his music, and your without a doubt within the law. (it was HIM that stole the songs)
AKA IT IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW
AKA IT IS NOT AGAINST THE LAW
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I think you are overthinking things. You probably do alot worse things on a daily basis without giving it a second thought.
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Tariel
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It's perfectly fine to use the iPod 
This is how I view the whole downloading music thing: if there is a song that I want, I look for a way to obtain the music legally (either buying the CD or getting the individual song off of iTunes or similar sites). If there is no way for me to get it legally (and I like some pretty obscure stuff so it's not uncommon) then I consider it fair game for downloading by whatever method I can find. Conversely, if there was no way I was going to buy the CD anyway, I don't feel any guilt "stealing" the music.
This is how I view the whole downloading music thing: if there is a song that I want, I look for a way to obtain the music legally (either buying the CD or getting the individual song off of iTunes or similar sites). If there is no way for me to get it legally (and I like some pretty obscure stuff so it's not uncommon) then I consider it fair game for downloading by whatever method I can find. Conversely, if there was no way I was going to buy the CD anyway, I don't feel any guilt "stealing" the music.
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It's gotten to the point where listening to music from a friend is a sin? No matter how?
[wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth][wash my mouth] you.
BTW, I'm a demon, and I shovel penises down my mouth.
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