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USA could become energy self-sufficient with natural gas.
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<blockquote data-quote="Cromulent" data-source="post: 59953115" data-attributes="member: 291782"><p>Which is why governments must take the lead. Ever wonder why fossil fuels are so cheap? The combustion and boiler technology was paid for by governments looking to build faster, more powerful warships. Nuclear energy? Nuclear weapons.</p><p></p><p>Added to that is the fact that the cost per kWh quoted for fossil fuels never takes into account the externalities it causes. Environmental damage and deaths from mining, future rises in fuel prices, and, of course, the damage caused by climate change.</p><p></p><p>The following is a table of the results of a US government study into the cost of energy from different sources:</p><p></p><p><img src="http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Levelized_energy_cost_chart_1%2C_2011_DOE_report.gif" alt="" class="fr-fic fr-dii fr-draggable " style="" /></p><p></p><p>It doesn't include any tax credits, or externalities, and you can see that renewables really don't have that far to go to catch up to the conventional forms anyway. And the price of fossil fuels is only going to go up.</p><p></p><p>So the future has to be either renewable, or nuclear. And seeing as we're running out of uranium, the choice is either between developing new "breeder", or thorium reactors, or renewables, or a combination of both. No matter which way things go, it's going to end up being a little more expensive for the consumer, but nowhere near as expensive as it would be if we sat on our hands and waited for the price of fossil fuels to go through the roof without developing a viable long-term alternative.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Cromulent, post: 59953115, member: 291782"] Which is why governments must take the lead. Ever wonder why fossil fuels are so cheap? The combustion and boiler technology was paid for by governments looking to build faster, more powerful warships. Nuclear energy? Nuclear weapons. Added to that is the fact that the cost per kWh quoted for fossil fuels never takes into account the externalities it causes. Environmental damage and deaths from mining, future rises in fuel prices, and, of course, the damage caused by climate change. The following is a table of the results of a US government study into the cost of energy from different sources: [IMG]http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/a/ad/Levelized_energy_cost_chart_1%2C_2011_DOE_report.gif[/IMG] It doesn't include any tax credits, or externalities, and you can see that renewables really don't have that far to go to catch up to the conventional forms anyway. And the price of fossil fuels is only going to go up. So the future has to be either renewable, or nuclear. And seeing as we're running out of uranium, the choice is either between developing new "breeder", or thorium reactors, or renewables, or a combination of both. No matter which way things go, it's going to end up being a little more expensive for the consumer, but nowhere near as expensive as it would be if we sat on our hands and waited for the price of fossil fuels to go through the roof without developing a viable long-term alternative. [/QUOTE]
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