US Divided?

[MorkandMindy]

Divided in two? Is it serious? Can it be fixed? How can it be fixed.


In Two? The Democrat areas are the North East and the West Coast, with some states in the North and usually New Mexico and Colorado.

In 2016 only states on the coast and Minnesota and Illinois (Chicago) and NM and Colorado were blue.

So what is the division? I would suggest it is between finance and production.

With so many more people in production, pretty much the whole of the middle of the US is involved in some way in making cars or other engineering or mining and agriculture and so few outside NY, Chicago and other metro areas are in the banks and other finance it seems obvious most of the country should be red.

Some tests were done and it was discovered that the person the camera focuses on is assumed to be the one in charge and the person talking is generally perceived to know something, so buying air time actually does buy elections and gives finance more votes than you might expect.

 

[SigurdReginson]

People like to look at the state of things and guess why their current situations are the way they are. Just take a look in the past to get an idea of where we are heading. This isn't the first time our country has been divided, and the way it's playing out seems somewhat reminiscent.

You have the wealthy folks in power manipulating everyone else who isn't and telling them that a certain people group is threatening their way of life. Back in the civil war days, that was primarily slave owners whipping up poor white people into a frenzy over black people taking their jobs if ever they were freed.

This tactic happens to work quite well, as it happens all throughout history. Even Hitler utilized it when he made the Jews into the common enemy.

Maybe the Conservatives are the bad guys. Maybe it's the Liberals. Immigrants. Cops. BLM or white supremacist rioters, who are also the Liberals and the Conservatives. There's always some group of people we are supposed to be up in arms over, isn't there? Almost seems kind of desperate at this point...

While I don't think another civil war scenario will play out, I do think some big changes are going to happen. This kind of stuff always seems to unfold before major social structure shifts happen. It's about time, honestly...

 

[Pommer]

Maybe the Conservatives are the bad guys. Maybe it's the Liberals. Immigrants. Cops. BLM or white supremacist rioters, who are also the Liberals and the Conservatives. There's always some group of people we are supposed to be up in arms over, isn't there? Almost seems kind of desperate at this point...

Maybe we’re all in this Nation together and should get used to this concept to begin to (again) work together for “the common good”?

 

[GDL]

Maybe we’re all in this Nation together and should get used to this concept to begin to (again) work together for “the common good”?

This assumes both side have the same idea of what's good, which is highly doubtful.

 

[Fantine]

I think it is primarily a rural/urban divide.

Whether a state is red or blue, its rural areas vote red and its urban areas vote blue. Is a state more urban than rural? It's blue.

Suburban voters are more and more deciding their priorities are more urban. Thriving cities bring the prosperity, jobs, culture. Suburbs are more diverse each year.

 

[SigurdReginson]

Maybe we’re all in this Nation together and should get used to this concept to begin to (again) work together for “the common good”?

Would be nice. I don't see that happening, though. It's hard to control a strong, united people. It's much easier to control people when you keep them them divided on their differences - and everyone in this country just loves to focus on our differences.

 

[MorkandMindy]

This assumes both sides have the same idea of what's good, which is highly doubtful.

I started simple - finance vs production, and indeed those two are diametrically opposed.

Finance makes money in a number of ways for example:
Mortgage interest, most people pay as much in interest to banks or other finance organizations as the house costs. The more money the bank makes the less the homeowner keeps. That is a direct conflict.

And yes it is a lot more complicated than that, these days I understand the bank sells the mortgage immediately to the government to avoid any risk if house prices drop, but I think interest rates are down so the profits aren't as huge as they were.

Although there can be some area of common interest, in the main finance attempts to get as much as possible of the money production makes.

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

Divided in two? Is it serious? Can it be fixed? How can it be fixed.


In Two? The Democrat areas are the North East and the West Coast, with some states in the North and usually New Mexico and Colorado.

In 2016 only states on the coast and Minnesota and Illinois (Chicago) and NM and Colorado were blue.

So what is the division? I would suggest it is between finance and production.

With so many more people in production, pretty much the whole of the middle of the US is involved in some way in making cars or other engineering or mining and agriculture and so few outside NY, Chicago and other metro areas are in the banks and other finance it seems obvious most of the country should be red.

Some tests were done and it was discovered that the person the camera focuses on is assumed to be the one in charge and the person talking is generally perceived to know something, so buying air time actually does buy elections and gives finance more votes than you might expect.

Politics demands division. After all, politics is the art of division.

If you knew that either voting choice would achieve the same result, would you bother to vote? Would you bother to send them your hard earned money? No. The goal is to get people to believe that they will get a leg up on their fellow man by voting for a particular candidate.

Without this division, our political leaders could not function.

So the question becomes, is the division manufactured or is it real? I would say that it is both.

For example, we are led to believe that Trump and his followers are racist, but is this the case? Joe Biden said he got in the race to be President because Trump called the white Supremacists at Charlottesville good people and refused to condemn them. However, this not what the President said. He specifically condemned the racism and white supremacists are evil, but the press ignored it. The media preferred to convince the nation that Trump was a white supremacist, and that the white supremacists were a threat to American democracy. So they preferred to create artificial differences, referring to all Trump supporters as white racist KKK members.

But is America divided on real issues? Spiritually, if you are a Christian you know there is real division in the world based on our spiritual condition. Some look to God for their needs and wants and hopes, as where the rest of the world is looking to government. And the culture war with children in schools now being taught critical race theory, which makes black children feel like they are helpless victims or white children feel like they should be guilty for being white, is the end result. Now with gender being taught as "fluid", gender confusion is now up 4000% in schools all across the country. Now children are undergoing surgical procedures to change their sex even though they are not old enough to even have sex. And if you speak out, if you dare object to any of it, you are cancelled from society and probably will lose your job as well.

So those are real and created lines of division we face in America today.

 

[WonbyOneanddone]

Maybe we’re all in this Nation together and should get used to this concept to begin to (again) work together for “the common good”?

From what I hear from the Left is, the nation is built on slavery. As such, it needs to be torn down and recreated. This is what all children are being taught in schools around the country today.

Those on the "right", however, want to preserve their freedoms and the Constitution, a document the Left says was created in systemic racism. This means the Constitution needs to either be rewritten or go away completely.

In fact, about 50% of Americans now want to repeal the First Amendment and freedom of speech, so that speech that "offends" them can be outlawed. And we all know how the Left wants to do away with the second amendment altogether.

 

[Fantine]

TBT there are divisions among Christians, too.

There are progressive Christians and conservative Christians. Progressive Christians are not second-class Christians. They are some of the finest people i have ever met, inspiring me to be a better person.

As a progressive Christian, I know we are not "Christians who look to God for their needs." We are Christians who are called to be Christ's hands and feet.

We see many things differently, including politics, but we are taking different paths to the same destination.

We can bond on our commonalities.