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<blockquote data-quote="ThatRobGuy" data-source="post: 74367527" data-attributes="member: 123415"><p>Based on the definition from Wiki, it's referring to cultural practices with regards to economics, individualism, and business, not ethnic demographics. (unless there's a different definition you're seeing in there that I missed)</p><p></p><p><em>The Nordic combination of extensive public provision of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare" target="_blank">welfare</a> and a culture of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism" target="_blank">individualism</a> has been described by Lars Trägårdh of <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ersta_Sk%C3%B6ndal_University_College" target="_blank">Ersta Sköndal University College</a> as "<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism" target="_blank">statist</a> individualism".</em></p><p></p><p>The demographic make-up of a society doesn't really have an impact on the efficacy of programs like single-payer healthcare models, and how educational institutions are funded.</p><p></p><p></p><p>As far as the "citizen participation", what exactly are you referring to there? Are you referring to the number of people working? If so, it should be pointed out that at our current level of "participation", we already spend more tax dollars per capita for our current healthcare system...so if we can afford the one we currently have, then we could afford the ones they're using as theirs produce better outcomes for a lower per capita government spending rate.</p><p></p><p>That's the power of the single negotiating entity. Yes, if we covered everyone based on where providers are currently setting their prices, it would be tremendously more expensive...but the idea is to cap those prices first prior to covering everyone.</p><p></p><p>The issue isn't that there aren't enough people participating or that it would cost too much in tax dollars, the issue is that currently, there's nothing stopping providers from charging $1000 for a CT scan, that reasonably, shouldn't cost more than $300, it's just that patients don't have a choice but to suck it up.</p><p></p><p>It's not just diagnostics that are grossly overpriced in our country either:</p><p>[ATTACH=full]264765[/ATTACH]</p><p>[ATTACH=full]264766[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]264767[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]264768[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p>You lock in those prices where they should be, and implement a single payer model, you could easily afford the Nordic healthcare model on our current tax revenues.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="ThatRobGuy, post: 74367527, member: 123415"] Based on the definition from Wiki, it's referring to cultural practices with regards to economics, individualism, and business, not ethnic demographics. (unless there's a different definition you're seeing in there that I missed) [I]The Nordic combination of extensive public provision of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare']welfare[/URL] and a culture of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Individualism']individualism[/URL] has been described by Lars Trägårdh of [URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ersta_Sk%C3%B6ndal_University_College']Ersta Sköndal University College[/URL] as "[URL='https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statism']statist[/URL] individualism".[/I] The demographic make-up of a society doesn't really have an impact on the efficacy of programs like single-payer healthcare models, and how educational institutions are funded. As far as the "citizen participation", what exactly are you referring to there? Are you referring to the number of people working? If so, it should be pointed out that at our current level of "participation", we already spend more tax dollars per capita for our current healthcare system...so if we can afford the one we currently have, then we could afford the ones they're using as theirs produce better outcomes for a lower per capita government spending rate. That's the power of the single negotiating entity. Yes, if we covered everyone based on where providers are currently setting their prices, it would be tremendously more expensive...but the idea is to cap those prices first prior to covering everyone. The issue isn't that there aren't enough people participating or that it would cost too much in tax dollars, the issue is that currently, there's nothing stopping providers from charging $1000 for a CT scan, that reasonably, shouldn't cost more than $300, it's just that patients don't have a choice but to suck it up. It's not just diagnostics that are grossly overpriced in our country either: [ATTACH=full]264765[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]264766[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]264767[/ATTACH] [ATTACH=full]264768[/ATTACH] You lock in those prices where they should be, and implement a single payer model, you could easily afford the Nordic healthcare model on our current tax revenues. [/QUOTE]
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