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Unity in Jesus, before Paul's conversion?

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Kimberlyann

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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The New King James Version [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]John 17 [/FONT] [FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]

1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
6 "I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me. 9 I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. 10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them.
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me. 24 Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me. 26 And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them."


[/FONT]This truly is a beautiful Prayer. Don't you just feel the LOVE Jesus has for us?
 

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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me;

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[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]that they may behold My glory which You have given Me;" [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica] That's pretty awesome.[/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]

Great scripture!
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The love expressed here is for the Nation ISRAEL...not for "US". You really need to stop fighting the FACT that most of what is in your bible is NOT addressed TO YOU, and stop stealing from Israel that which is NOT yours to take. Israel had blessings and curses. If you want her program then you must accept the curses as well.

Under Johns preaching and the Kingdom program...Jesus came to give His life as a ransom for MANY...the many here are the people of ISRAEL.

Under Pauls MYSTERY revelation, the blood was shed for ALL...do you not really see a difference there?
 
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eph3Nine said:
The love expressed here is for the Nation ISRAEL...not for "US". You really need to stop fighting the FACT that most of what is in your bible is NOT addressed TO YOU, and stop stealing from Israel that which is NOT yours to take. Israel had blessings and curses. If you want her program then you must accept the curses as well.

Under Johns preaching and the Kingdom program...Jesus came to give His life as a ransom for MANY...the many here are the people of ISRAEL.

Under Pauls MYSTERY revelation, the blood was shed for ALL...do you not really see a difference there?

Eph3,
YOU ARE A BABE...........(in Christ)
1 Corinthians 3:4 For when one says, “I am of Paul,” and another, “I am of Apollos,” are you not carnal? :thumbsup:

Paul "your apostle" tells us to speak the truth in love.

So here goes.....

Eph 3:14 As a result, we are no longer to be children, tossed here and there by waves and carried about by every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, by craftiness in deceitful scheming;
15but speaking the truth in love, we are to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ,

So GROW UP (said lovingly) :D
 
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Kimberlyann said:
[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]The New King James Version [/FONT]
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[FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]John 17 [/FONT][FONT=Arial, Geneva, Helvetica]

1 Jesus spoke these words, lifted up His eyes to heaven, and said: "Father, the hour has come. Glorify Your Son, that Your Son also may glorify You, 2 as You have given Him authority over all flesh, that He should give eternal life to as many as You have given Him. 3 And this is eternal life, that they may know You, the only true God, and Jesus Christ whom You have sent. 4 I have glorified You on the earth. I have finished the work which You have given Me to do. 5 And now, O Father, glorify Me together with Yourself, with the glory which I had with You before the world was.
6 "I have manifested Your name to the men whom You have given Me out of the world. They were Yours, You gave them to Me, and they have kept Your word. 7 Now they have known that all things which You have given Me are from You. 8 For I have given to them the words which You have given Me; and they have received them, and have known surely that I came forth from You; and they have believed that You sent Me. 9 I pray for them. I do not pray for the world but for those whom You have given Me, for they are Yours. 10 And all Mine are Yours, and Yours are Mine, and I am glorified in them.
11 Now I am no longer in the world, but these are in the world, and I come to You. Holy Father, keep through Your name those whom You have given Me, that they may be one as We are. 12 While I was with them in the world, I kept them in Your name. Those whom You gave Me I have kept; and none of them is lost except the son of perdition, that the Scripture might be fulfilled. 13 But now I come to You, and these things I speak in the world, that they may have My joy fulfilled in themselves. 14 I have given them Your word; and the world has hated them because they are not of the world, just as I am not of the world. 15 I do not pray that You should take them out of the world, but that You should keep them from the evil one. 16 They are not of the world, just as I am not of the world.
17 Sanctify them by Your truth. Your word is truth. 18 As You sent Me into the world, I also have sent them into the world. 19 And for their sakes I sanctify Myself, that they also may be sanctified by the truth.
20 "I do not pray for these alone, but also for those who will believe in Me through their word; 21 that they all may be one, as You, Father, are in Me, and I in You; that they also may be one in Us, that the world may believe that You sent Me. 22 And the glory which You gave Me I have given them, that they may be one just as We are one: 23 I in them, and You in Me; that they may be made perfect in one, and that the world may know that You have sent Me, and have loved them as You have loved Me. 24 Father, I desire that they also whom You gave Me may be with Me where I am, that they may behold My glory which You have given Me; for You loved Me before the foundation of the world. 25 O righteous Father! The world has not known You, but I have known You; and these have known that You sent Me. 26 And I have declared to them Your name, and will declare it, that the love with which You loved Me may be in them, and I in them."








[/FONT]This truly is a beautiful Prayer. Don't you just feel the LOVE Jesus has for us?

Your post brings to mind a great worship song by Third Day.

Your love, oh Lord

Your love, oh Lord Reaches to the heavens
Your faithfulness stretches to the sky
Your righteousness is like the mighty mountains
Your justice flows like the ocean's tide
I will lift my voiceTo worship You, my King
I will find my strength In the shadow of your wings

Turn it up!
 
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Another good one.

King of Glory
Third Day

Who is this King of Glory that persues me with his love
And haunts me with each hearing of His softly spoken words
My conscience, a reminder of forgiveness that I need
Who is this King of Glory who offers it to me
Who is this King of angels, O blessed Prince of Peace
Revealing things of Heaven and all its mysteries
My spirit's ever longing for His grace in which to stand
Who's this King of glory, Son of God and son of man
His name is Jesus, precious Jesus
The Lord Almighty, the King of my heart
The King of glory
Who is this King of Glory with strength and majesty
And wisdom beyond measure, the graceous King of kings
the Lord of Earth and Heaven, the Creator of all things
Who is this King of Glory, He's everything to me
The Lord of Earth and Heaven, the Creator of all things
He is the King of glory, He's everything to me
 
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Kimberlyann said:
Yeah, I noticed. That's a beautiful picture. Where was it taken?

The avatar? That was taken in the White Mountain National Forest. The backgouund is looking at Mt. Washington and the Presidental Range from the top of Wildcat Mtn, NH in Dec.. I love hiking and living in NH! God's creation is awesome!
 
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