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United Airlines to fire 593 unvaccinated employees
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<blockquote data-quote="whatbogsends" data-source="post: 76283683" data-attributes="member: 11978"><p>Both, but obviously the concern is relative rates. </p><p></p><p><em>Flu vaccine effectiveness estimates for 2020-2021 are not available, but a <a href="https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-distribution.htm" target="_blank">record number</a> of influenza vaccine doses (193.8 million doses) were distributed in the U.S. during 2020-2021.</em></p><p></p><p><a href="https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/faq-flu-season-2020-2021.htm" target="_blank">2020-2021 Flu Season Summary | CDC</a></p><p></p><p>For the Covid vaccines, ~392 million doses have been administered.</p><p></p><p>For simplicity's sake, i queried VAERS for all of 2020 and 2021 - which would increase the denominator for the flu shots, which means that the actual rate of adverse events for the flu would actually be lower than the number these queris will produce.</p><p></p><p>The first query i did limited the query to Covid and all Influenza (Flu) vaccines in 2020-2021 where death was reported:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]306894[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>8,104 reported deaths for Covid vaccine out of 392,000,000 shots.</p><p>101 reported deaths for flu vaccine out of 193.8 million shots.</p><p>.00207% for Covid shots vs. .00005% for flu shots - 39x higher rate of death reported for Covid shots. </p><p></p><p>Changing the criteria to hospitalized/life threatening (instead of death) we get:</p><p></p><p>[ATTACH=full]306895[/ATTACH]</p><p></p><p></p><p>40,077 reported hospitalizations/life threatening events for Covid vaccine out of 392,000,000 shots, or .0102%</p><p>550 reported deaths for flu vaccine out of 193.8 million shots, or .0003%</p><p></p><p>Again, a 35x rate of difference.</p><p></p><p>I don't profess to be a VAERS data expert, although i am very familiar with rational databases. Some of the query results from the VAERS Wonder system seem odd, but the data trends are consistent. I do know that it is widely reported that VAERS deaths related to the Covid vaccines were listed as over 15,000. </p><p></p><p>I would encourage you do do your own research on VAERS: <a href="https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html" target="_blank">VAERS - Data (hhs.gov)</a></p><p></p><p>While VAERS is not 100% accurate, neither is it 100% complete. Not all incidents are reported to VAERS. Similarly, not all incidents reported to VAERS are causal. However, the data patterns showing that these vaccines appear to carry significantly more risk than previous vaccines have been consistent since the vaccination program began, and are reflected in other countries monitoring systems (Yellowcard and Eudra Vigilance) as well.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="whatbogsends, post: 76283683, member: 11978"] Both, but obviously the concern is relative rates. [I]Flu vaccine effectiveness estimates for 2020-2021 are not available, but a [URL='https://www.cdc.gov/flu/prevent/vaccine-supply-distribution.htm']record number[/URL] of influenza vaccine doses (193.8 million doses) were distributed in the U.S. during 2020-2021.[/I] [URL='https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/faq-flu-season-2020-2021.htm']2020-2021 Flu Season Summary | CDC[/URL] For the Covid vaccines, ~392 million doses have been administered. For simplicity's sake, i queried VAERS for all of 2020 and 2021 - which would increase the denominator for the flu shots, which means that the actual rate of adverse events for the flu would actually be lower than the number these queris will produce. The first query i did limited the query to Covid and all Influenza (Flu) vaccines in 2020-2021 where death was reported: [ATTACH=full]306894[/ATTACH] 8,104 reported deaths for Covid vaccine out of 392,000,000 shots. 101 reported deaths for flu vaccine out of 193.8 million shots. .00207% for Covid shots vs. .00005% for flu shots - 39x higher rate of death reported for Covid shots. Changing the criteria to hospitalized/life threatening (instead of death) we get: [ATTACH=full]306895[/ATTACH] 40,077 reported hospitalizations/life threatening events for Covid vaccine out of 392,000,000 shots, or .0102% 550 reported deaths for flu vaccine out of 193.8 million shots, or .0003% Again, a 35x rate of difference. I don't profess to be a VAERS data expert, although i am very familiar with rational databases. Some of the query results from the VAERS Wonder system seem odd, but the data trends are consistent. I do know that it is widely reported that VAERS deaths related to the Covid vaccines were listed as over 15,000. I would encourage you do do your own research on VAERS: [URL='https://vaers.hhs.gov/data.html']VAERS - Data (hhs.gov)[/URL] While VAERS is not 100% accurate, neither is it 100% complete. Not all incidents are reported to VAERS. Similarly, not all incidents reported to VAERS are causal. However, the data patterns showing that these vaccines appear to carry significantly more risk than previous vaccines have been consistent since the vaccination program began, and are reflected in other countries monitoring systems (Yellowcard and Eudra Vigilance) as well. [/QUOTE]
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