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This Hellenic system of philosophy was the most popular during the Middle Ages, but it was eventually revealed to be incorrect (ie., things are not made up of four elements, they're made up of a host of elementary particles like quarks, and those quarks make up over a hundred atoms with different reactive properties). It seems inappropriate, then, to attach the four elements system to Genesis.
The four elements system was a valiant attempt to understand the way that the world works, but we now understand some of the elements (fire, for example) aren't fundamental building blocks of the Universe. Fire is a chemical reaction between oxygen and other molecules like carbon that generates enough heat to cause a chain reaction and to excite electrons, which rise to a higher shell on individual atoms and then descend to a lower one, releasing a photon of light. Water is a combination of oxygen and hydrogen, and air is a complex pastiche of atoms (same with earth).
Hm, there seemed to be some confusion as to what the "four elements" referred to. They describe different states of reality, not different states of the physical world. Earth, water, fire and air are symbols.
Hm, there seemed to be some confusion as to what the "four elements" referred to. They describe different states of reality, not different states of the physical world. Earth, water, fire and air are symbols.
So I am tired and cannot discuss and reply to your posts about whose ideas the four elements were originally, the Book of Genesis or others.
That is sooo cool, I really dig that kind of Biblically inspired art. And your grandfather explained Genesis to you that way? I think I would like that guy. This is an illustration I like to use to explain the creation of modern science, what do you think?
Grace and peace,
Mark
Hi Mark, That Newton was a very inquisitive guy. And apparently he was a believer in the Bible. You must know that in 1666 he shone light thought a crystal to make an upside down rainbow. Then he shone that light through another crystal which apparently comes out as pure white light. Is that what is happening with Mankind's consiousness?
First we went down and conscious of only base physical feeling. Thats like cave man mentality. But then with God's help we can come out in the end as pure white light consciousness. Maybe that would be Christ consciousness which we get after we have accepted Jesus as the Messiah. These are just some thoughts to provoke thinking. I too like to put the colors to the six days of Genesis for enhanced understanding.
Thanks for the synopsys, it is truly amazing to me that in 1666 these things began. This number comes up in history in an amazing way when you divide the 2000 years of the "times of the Gentiles," by the 12 tribes of Israel. But that would go into the Biblical history forum.
What I'm wondering about is, is it just a coincidence that some people use the "upsidedown rainbow?" It is created when light passes through earth/a crystal. The rightsideup rainbow is created by passing light through water. I'm interested in the significance of these manifestations.
That's certainly interesting, I'll have to look into it. However, I honestly have no idea what the significance would be.
Where did you get that date from? Newton began his optics experiments in 1670.You must know that in 1666 he shone light thought a crystal to make an upside down rainbow.
Where did you get that date from? Newton began his optics experiments in 1670.
Where did you get that date from? Newton began his optics experiments in 1670.
Here. I just copyied and pasted this from the second google entry under the heading "Isaac Newton 1666."
The diagram from Sir Isaac Newtons crucial experiment, 1666-72. A ray of light is divided into its constituent colors by the first prism (left), and the resulting bundle of colred rays is reconstituted into white light by the second.
I could swear in Opticks (1704) it mentions 1670 as the year for the prism experiments. 1666 was a plague year and that was when he started his work on gravity.
You could equally well say take the prior to 1967 with a grain of salt. In fact more modern data tends to be more trustworthy in most disciplines. Knowledge does tend to increase over time not decrease.So, take what you read after 67 with a grain of salt and ask for evidence. The highly famed archologists in London arn't suppling any.
You could equally well say take the prior to 1967 with a grain of salt. In fact more modern data tends to be more trustworthy in most disciplines. Knowledge does tend to increase over time not decrease.
Oh - for artifacts pre-Mesopotamia check Natufian culture. I think that stuff goes back 10,000 BC or so.
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