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Hi everyone,

This is my first visit to the forum and Im so relieved to have found it. After years of 'applying the brakes' on my topsy turvy personality I found the courage to go and see my Doctor about it as I cant control it anymore. Just before Christmas I was stealing from my local grocery store at a manic rate and knew that something had to give. I am on sleeping tablets at the moment because it takes me hours to get to sleep. I have been fighting the emotional ups and downs of a mental and emotional roller coaster for years, not knowing it had a name, let alone a treatment.

I went to see the Mental Health nurse a few weeks ago and had a long chat with her and she has referred me to a Psychiatrist who I am going to see Feb 20th.

There is no diagnosis as yet but I am sure that I am Bipolar. I find that there seems to be a major conflict between Christians and Psychiatry. Does anyone else see this? If you have a physical illness, you seem to get more sympathy and support but if you mention anything mental, people assume its because you I either possessed by demons or you cant possibly be depressed because you are saved!! Christians can be confused and frightened about seeking psychiatric help, and at times, the church can add to people’s misery by ascribing their depressive illness to ‘deep rooted sin’ or a ‘spirit of depression'. I

It is perhaps not surprising that churches (speaking in broad generalizations of course) tend to still have trouble with conditions of a decidedly psychological or psychiatric nature. They don't know how to respond to someone who has suffered a nervous breakdown, who battles depression or commits suicide and far too often they respond by ignoring or rejecting that person and even his or her family. Ive witnessed many Christians incapable of seeing a mental illness as anything beyond spiritual weakness. A moral-existential approach cannot fully address the medical factors involved in disorders that we now acknowledge to have a solid neuro-biological basis. It has saddened me to sit through sermons where there has been the implication of shame or sin attached to either being ill or seeking treatment or, most painfully and tragically, to a life that has ended in suicide. It almost seems that mental illness challenges the comforting notion that the mind is somehow inseparable from the soul. If the mind is sick then surely the soul is too?

I am wise enough to know that there are some psychiatric treatments and therapies that are not consistent with Christianity and the teachings of the Bible and I will be praying and asking God for his wisdom and guidance.

God bless you all and look forward to sharing my journey with you all.

Sarah (from England) :groupray:
 

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Hi, while this is an appropriate post of course, please focus on Recovery and support for the original post.

The only reason I mention this is because it might lead to debate which we don't allow in Recovery.

Christian Ethics and Morality is more the place to discuss why Christians feel certain ways, however it is certainly relevent to bi-polar I just urge the thread to focus on support and recovery.
 
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Hi everyone,

This is my first visit to the forum and Im so relieved to have found it. After years of 'applying the brakes' on my topsy turvy personality I found the courage to go and see my Doctor about it as I cant control it anymore. Just before Christmas I was stealing from my local grocery store at a manic rate and knew that something had to give. I am on sleeping tablets at the moment because it takes me hours to get to sleep. I have been fighting the emotional ups and downs of a mental and emotional roller coaster for years, not knowing it had a name, let alone a treatment.

I went to see the Mental Health nurse a few weeks ago and had a long chat with her and she has referred me to a Psychiatrist who I am going to see Feb 20th.

There is no diagnosis as yet but I am sure that I am Bipolar. I find that there seems to be a major conflict between Christians and Psychiatry. Does anyone else see this? If you have a physical illness, you seem to get more sympathy and support but if you mention anything mental, people assume its because you I either possessed by demons or you cant possibly be depressed because you are saved!! Christians can be confused and frightened about seeking psychiatric help, and at times, the church can add to people’s misery by ascribing their depressive illness to ‘deep rooted sin’ or a ‘spirit of depression'. I

It is perhaps not surprising that churches (speaking in broad generalizations of course) tend to still have trouble with conditions of a decidedly psychological or psychiatric nature. They don't know how to respond to someone who has suffered a nervous breakdown, who battles depression or commits suicide and far too often they respond by ignoring or rejecting that person and even his or her family. Ive witnessed many Christians incapable of seeing a mental illness as anything beyond spiritual weakness. A moral-existential approach cannot fully address the medical factors involved in disorders that we now acknowledge to have a solid neuro-biological basis. It has saddened me to sit through sermons where there has been the implication of shame or sin attached to either being ill or seeking treatment or, most painfully and tragically, to a life that has ended in suicide. It almost seems that mental illness challenges the comforting notion that the mind is somehow inseparable from the soul. If the mind is sick then surely the soul is too?

I am wise enough to know that there are some psychiatric treatments and therapies that are not consistent with Christianity and the teachings of the Bible and I will be praying and asking God for his wisdom and guidance.

God bless you all and look forward to sharing my journey with you all.

Sarah (from England) :groupray:
Welcome to CF!!! Yes, I have experienced wimiliar issues with churches here in this country. But I am fortunate to be in a church for the last many years that recognizes these illness es as physical in nature and yet can also discourse about our enemy and his attacks.

Know that you are welcome here and that you will find much support and encouragement here!!!

May God guide you quickly to the rgiht treatment fo ryou!

Blessings and PRayers!
 
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Both my psychiatrist and my therapist are christians, I also attend a church that is recovery based I have not experiences this kind of problem in either sense, however... several of my family and friends believe that way unfortunately so I am very selective as to whom I share my struggles with. Those who dont understand and choose not to..wont ever know the truth about us, but hey their loss.
I am glad you are here, also praying that the Lord will surround you with the support you need as well as the understanding and acceptance we all need. Hugs and prayers.
 
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Hi Sarah,
Glad you found us here.
I know exactly what you are talking! I have struggled with this a lot in my lifetime. I think people do assume that since you are saved you will be filled with joy IE depression is not possible. I am a living testiment to the opposite. I have come to learn it is the chemical imbalance to blame and not my spiritual maturity. Some people I don't think will ever come to understand this...others learn after they witness it first hand. Anyways, glad to have you with us. You can PM me anytime you want to talk.
 
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Welcome to the bipolar forum Sarah. You will find excellent support here - the Christians on this site are very kind and caring.

I have also added you to my buddy list. :)

I totally understand your comment:
"I find that there seems to be a major conflict between Christians and Psychiatry".
Some Christians just don't understand mental illness and they think it is either a lack of faith, or sin, or you're oppressed by a spirit of depression. :sigh: One can only hope that such ignorance will become less prevalent over time as decades of ignorance and stigma w.r.t. mental illness are slowly lifted (at least this is what is happening in Australia).
 
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Hi! Welcome to CF!:wave:
We are all here to help one another and we're glad to have you as a part of our "family"
Having a mental illness is hard for a lot of society doesn't understand. I have a husband of almost 4 years and being together 5, and he still don't have a clue about me. The only thing he really knows is I HAVE to have my meds or I'm a mess.
Thing is, I have learned to look past all that society may think of me. For if I hang on everything they say or think, I'd never be able to move forward from day to day. Therefore, treatment is the most important thing and I know that I'm not alone. Though often mis-understood by many, I keep my head up and keep pushing on. God knows me, He knows my heart, and He is the one who helps me get through each day.
I wish you well on your way to treatment, and if you need help with anything please feel free to pm me.
God Bless!
:hug:s and :angel::kiss:es!!
 
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