UFO's - Extraterrestrials

[eleos1954]

Wasn't' sure were to post this .... so if there is a more appropriate place ... please move it.

Lately there have been some reports about UFO's and Extraterrestrials as being very real and for quite some time, but kept secrete. The in depth reports I have found .... have mostly been from independent news sources .... a couple mentions in the main stream media.

Below is one. (it is about 1 hour long) There are also some from government/military "whistle blowers" testify to this as well. These people do not present themselves to be "nut cases".

My question is ....

The bible does give reference of other beings existence .... however does not state anything about these other beings visiting planet earth (other than angels)

so, if the reports do indeed end up being true (and how would we know that it is?) .... then .... as Christians what are we to make of it?

 

[ozso]

Ephesians 6:12

 

[eleos1954]

Ephesians 6:12

ok .... so that being the case .... are we not to believe Extraterrestrials exist .... if/when they are presented as existing? If the government presents "evidence" of such .... it is a lie?

 

[ozso]

ok .... so that being the case .... are we not to believe Extraterrestrials exist .... if/when they are presented as existing? If the government presents "evidence" of such .... it is a lie?

If they exist I'd chalk them up to the powers in the air the Bible mentions.

 

[trophy33]

so, if the reports do indeed end up being true (and how would we know that it is?) .... then .... as Christians what are we to make of it?

Nothing special compared to non-Christians. We do not have enough evidence based information yet, so there is no way to know what they would be like.

 

[eleos1954]

If they exist I'd chalk them up to the powers in the air the Bible mentions.

ok .... that (powers in the air) would be angels then of which have the ability to take on various forms or appear as such .... what about if physical spacecraft(s) is presented?

Angels are spirits and do not require a physical craft of any kind .... this being the case .... if it is claimed the Extraterrestrials are navigating by way of a physical craft ..... then the claim of their existence is a lie

 

[eleos1954]

Nothing special compared to non-Christians. We do not have enough evidence based information yet, so there is no way to know what they would be like.

Yes ... I understand that .... will be interesting to see if "evidence" is actually presented. I put evidence in quotes because it could very well be
CGI or AI generated .... basically a deceptive illusion but very convincing to some .... perhaps many.

 

[Lost4words]

I really believe they exist and there is a MASSIVE cover up by the governments of the world. More things are coming to light and all i can say is 'watch this space' as i am sure more truths are a coming!

 

[trophy33]

I really believe they exist and there is a MASSIVE cover up by the governments of the world. More things are coming light and all i can say is 'watch this space' as i am sure mote truths are a coming!

I do not think such "MASSIVE cover up" is either technically possible or making sense. Governments in democratic countries are just plenty of normal people with families, drinking buddies etc, not some isolated caste of all powerful, super-intelligent, infallible conspirators.
They are unable to cover up even their own personal corruption in so many cases. Many of them are older and unable to secure their emails or phones properly, some are even taking secret documents to their homes etc. (publicly known cases are all over the news).

The daily seen incompetence of all kinds of governments and of state apparatus all over the world is quite a solid proof that nothing too surprising is going on. Its not like in a movie.

 

[eleos1954]

I really believe they exist and there is a MASSIVE cover up by the governments of the world. More things are coming light and all i can say is 'watch this space' as i am sure mote truths are a coming!

Will it be Truth or deception? How will we know the "truth" about the matter?

 

[Lost4words]

Will it be Truth or deception? How will we know the "truth" about the matter?

By reports...

 

[FaithT]

ok .... so that being the case .... are we not to believe Extraterrestrials exist .... if/when they are presented as existing? If the government presents "evidence" of such .... it is a lie?

I asked poster Daniel 9v9 about what the Lutheran LCMS should make of this because I’m LCMS and he is some other type of Lutheran pastor, but who knows a lot about the LCMS. He doesnt really believe in ETs but he did say that if it’s ever proven that they do exist, the church would recognize it. So I guess other churches would, too.

 

[ozso]

ok .... that (powers in the air) would be angels then of which have the ability to take on various forms or appear as such .... what about if physical spacecraft(s) is presented?

Angels are spirits and do not require a physical craft of any kind .... this being the case .... if it is claimed the Extraterrestrials are navigating by way of a physical craft ..... then the claim of their existence is a lie

Paul isn't talking about angels.

God appeared to Ezekiel in something that could be described as a craft.

 

[QvQ]

Governments in democratic countries are just plenty of normal people with families, drinking buddies etc, not some isolated caste of all powerful, super-intelligent, infallible conspirators.

There were many people in a neighborhood near a Defense Early Warning Station who saw an "unidentified object." IT was the talk around the neighborhood and also, talked about by the DEW system government workers.
Subsequently, a military man in uniform with all the braids and badges arrived and sought out every single person who had any information about what that person saw, heard or thought about the "UFO"
He said the government investigates, records, analyses and takes very seriously Any report of invasion of our airspace. It could have been a spy craft from earth or aliens from space.
The military man said the government is not denying or confirming UFO's. It is investigating every single one.
Honestly, the government does not know, is not covering up and made no attempt to discredit or silence those neighbors who witnessed the "UFO"
The military man thanked everyone, said the government was investigating and any conclusions would be published forthwith.

 

[Wings like Eagles]

@QvQ - were they like big balloons, there were reports the Government shot one down a while back.


I have been taught to weigh everything against scripture, espically in the last days.

 

[Lost4words]

There were many people in a neighborhood near a Defense Early Warning Station who saw an "unidentified object." IT was the talk around the neighborhood and also, talked about by the DEW system government workers.
Subsequently, a military man in uniform with all the braids and badges arrived and sought out every single person who had any information about what that person saw, heard or thought about the "UFO"
He said the government investigates, records, analyses and takes very seriously Any report of invasion of our airspace. It could have been a spy craft from earth or aliens from space.
The military man said the government is not denying or confirming UFO's. It is investigating every single one.
Honestly, the government does not know, is not covering up and made no attempt to discredit or silence those neighbors who witnessed the "UFO"
The military man thanked everyone, said the government was investigating and any conclusions would be published forthwith.

Governments do know. Dont be fooled my friend!

 

[Mark Quayle]

The bible does give reference of other beings existence .... however does not state anything about these other beings visiting planet earth (other than angels)

Other beings? Pretty vague, there. Extraterrestrials? —where?

 

[ozso]

Nothing has changed really. It's still just unidentified flying objects. It doesn't seem we know anything more about what they are then we did 70 years ago.

 

[trophy33]

Governments do know. Dont be fooled my friend!

Lol, if for example the Green Party in Germany or politicians in my country knew, you would know too. Or politicians in the EU parliament.

You use the word "governments" like some mysterious powerful organisations. But those are bunch of rotating people trying to find anything they can on each other to be elected again. Politicians are being manipulated, bought, lobbied all the time.

Look at Russia, how terribly badly they predicted the state of Ukraine and the reaction of other countries. Governments do not know much about anything, its not like in some conspiracy movie where they can see your every step and control everything.

 

[Lost4words]

Lol, if for example the Green Party in Germany or Pirates in Czech rep knew, you would know too. Or politicians in the EU parliament.

You use the word "governments" like some mysterious powerful organisations. But those are bunch of rotating people trying to find anything they can on each other to be elected again. Politicians are being manipulated, bought, lobbied all the time.

Look at Russia, how terribly badly they predicted the state of Ukraine and the reaction of other countries. Governments do not know much about anything, its not like in some conspiracy movie where they can see your every step and control everything.

This is what they want you to believe my friend..