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Types of Grace in different Theologic Systems

Jonah L

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Pretty simple, I would like some discussion on a statement about Grace.

Is this accurate:

Rome believes in Infused Grace which, like gas in an engine, gradually dries up and needs re-fueling (in the form of Baptism, The Mass, Confession, Penance, etc...)

Luther taught (with the ancient church and Paul) Imputed Grace, that is grace given to your account that is "far more" grace than we need and He continues to give us grace to continue in our living in the Simul and dying to our Old Adam through Word and Sacrament.

Wesley, and other "Holiness" or "Pietist" bodies teach Improving Grace, that is, God's grace is that we become more pious in our daily lives (and in the process confounding Sanctification and Justification).

Thoughts would be appreciated:) I also wonder if I am the first person to coin the term "Improving Grace" to describe Pietism's view of Grace.

Anyways, Grace and Peace Brothers!

- Jonah