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isnt that in itself stereotyping one? hmm perhaps never having been an athiest (have you?) has somewhat skewred your preception of one. while not a choice every athiest has put quite a bit of thought into their morals i assure you.I was thinking that even if I were an atheist, and I had the choice of trusting a person with some beliefs about right and wrong which were rooted in the Creator of the universe (even if untrue), and trusting a person I knew nothing about, except that he may or may not have such firm beliefs, I'd trust the one who believed in a Creator.
Well yeah, but that was apart from the OP. Those were my answers to the question, not assumptions built into it. Anyone's free to disagree with my answer, but I honestly didn't expect to get called names for asking the question.
Here are the stereotypes of Christians you claimed were unwarranted:
Pay special attention to 3, 4 and 5. Have a look over the thread. Have you folks undermined or perpetuated these steretypes? If you need help, I'm sure there a posters that would be happy to direct you to some particular posts.
isnt that in itself stereotyping one? hmm perhaps never having been an athiest (have you?) has somewhat skewred your preception of one. while not a choice every athiest has put quite a bit of thought into their morals i assure you.
The whole reason the gold is in the story is we want someone to pretend they have something "tempting" to steal. You're asking the reader to pretend he has something valuable to protect and then asking them if they trust it more with an atheist or christian!
There's a giant assumption built into the question...it's the assumption that you can't trust an atheist with your sack of gold (or whatever you hold valuable).
Why else are we pretending we're carrying a sack of gold???! Have I just finished collecting from my stable of leprechaun hookers?!?!
I was thinking that even if I were an atheist ... I'd trust the one who believed in a Creator.
Technically, I didn't claim they were all completely unwarranted. I answered the question "what stereotypes do you think atheists hold about Christians" or something like that. We don't have to go farther than our friend who says "Science can take a hike" to extrapolate that there's at least an anti-science fringe out there.
Apart from that, I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Yes, but that's only because you have an underdeveloped ability to put yourself in someone else's shoes, due to your Christian privilege.
So, are you saying that generally Christians are:
Ignorant of their own beliefs?
Anti-science?
Only moral Christians because of fear?
Bigots?
and/or
Under the belief that they are morally superior?
Yes that's exactly what I asked.
And that's exactly how you've responded.
There you have it. Only the insatiable perversity of an atheist would know there was a niche market for leprechaun hookers.
OK, lets change the terms a little bit:
You are also informed that the atheist and the Christian in each cabin also happen to be participants in this thread.
Now what.....?
Who said anything about seeing the outcome?Then the traveler is safe in either cabin because everyone wants to be seen in the eyes of other people as living up to the basic moral code we all share.
If you hadn't noticed, I never actually answered the OP. I had considered it, then I decided upon a much tamer approach.
If there's no assumptions built into the OP, if you weren't directly playing into the "dangerous amoral atheist" stereotype, then why add the sack of gold at all? Why not just have the person walking through the woods and need a place to stay for the night?
We both know why, it's as inherent in the OP as it is in your own responses. You want people to confirm (and thereby justify) your own shallow, ignorant, baseless, naive, and offensive biases.
I honestly thought the whole thread was just an attempt at trolling to begin with. It wasn't until you and Tree both started replying that I realized you were serious.
Who said anything about seeing the outcome?
Its a random local atheist vs a random local Christian, outcome unknown!
Who's it going to be???
This is inspired by Tree Of Life's "Persuasiveness of the Christian Community" thread. I didn't want to hijack that one.
It's a hypothetical scenario I think I read in a book a long time ago - you're traveling to a town, but you're having to walk a long way through the woods to get there. It's snowing, temperature's below freezing, and you have to stop for the night. A man you came across earlier told you there are two cabins up ahead with warm fire and food. You asked him about who lived in them, and he replied that he didn't know either of the occupants, except it was known that one man was an atheist (cabin A), and the other man was a Christian (cabin B). That's all you know. Another thing, you're carrying a bag with your life savings in gold coins, so if you're going to sleep you'd like to be able to trust the person who's offering you hospitality not to murder you and/or steal your money. Which cabin would you go to?
Which cabin would you go to?
no i am saying it is impossible to know the mind of another, the fact you are claiming to be able to do just that is unsettling.You're not claiming all atheists are paragons of virtue, are you?
I just answered the guy's question. He didn't ask for stereotypes we think are false, or true, or partially true. He just asked what stereotypes Christians think atheists might have.
Seems like most of them (atheists) agree with most of the stereotypes. Was hoping they'd be a bit more generous, but oh well. It's a very tiny sample of people from both sites though.
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