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pmcleanj

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Actually, I don't think I would discuss my teen daughter's underwear on a public messageboard, let alone my tween's, and even less a provocative brand of underwear. There's enough premature sexualizing of our daughters without cooperating with it.
 
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Actually, I don't think I would discuss my teen daughter's underwear on a public messageboard, let alone my tween's, and even less a provocative brand of underwear. There's enough premature sexualizing of our daughters without cooperating with it.
I personally don't see anything wrong with answering the question.

I was just curious if I am the only one who thinks this is too grown up for 10-11 year olds.
 
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I personally don't see anything wrong with answering the question.

I was just curious if I am the only one who thinks this is too grown up for 10-11 year olds.
Look at it this way:

If one of the little boys at your daughter's school were to read this page, and tell her "I know what kind of panties you wear because your mama posted it on the World Wide Web", don't you think she would be embarrassed?

Now, what if the person who read this page were not a little boy, but the dirty old man who lives across the street: even if he does nothing more than look out the window every time she gets out of the car to come into your home, and imagines her in her undies, would you want to be contributing to that?

Its old-fashioned of me, perhaps, but I think a lady's underwear, even a young lady's underwear, is not a matter for public discussion.

As a general observation though, I'd suggest that plain serviceable clothes (under or over) are an appropriate norm for children; and anything that emphasises fashion or branding over the freedom to play tag and climb trees is too grown up. My fifteen-year-old spent today playing grounders and marco-polo in the playground with the neighbourhood children without her activities in any way being constrained by style or fashion, so certainly a ten-year-old should enjoy the same freedom. If a garment isn't constraining and doesn't attract inappropriate attention then it's irrelevant to me where it was purchased. My only concern in that case would be for the child's self-image and value system, if she cares particularly about having over-sophisticated garments or about having particular trendy brands.
 
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No, I don't think so.

Don't judge the brand, judge the products.

Sure, VS is known for it's sexy lingerie, lacy/sheer bras and barely there panties that may certainly be too much and too inappropriate for a tween.

But if you'd have bothered to look better you'd know VS also has some really nice products and excellent normally lined full coverage or demi bras. They have a variety of different bras for different shirts, bras that are made for that convenience, not for show. Many of them have convertable straps so you can wear them as a racer back, halter or normal to prevent straps from showing. Some of them are also seamless, so you can't see the outline of the bra as much under tight or thin shirts.

If anything, VS bras make dressing modestly and appropriately easier for a girl.

Their Pink branch is actually geared towards younger teens.
 
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... Don't judge the brand, judge the products ...
This is a good rule of thumb, and one that consumers would be well advised to apply to all so-called "designer" products.

My dear foster-daughter caught flack a couple weeks ago from some school-mates who were accusing her of being hoity-toity for wearing a trendy brand of yoga pants. But the girl is 5-foot-eleven and overweight: there are very few places I can buy anything that fits her, and this brand comes in "long" sizes that fit well. I didn't care about the brand, so why should some bullying little strangers care.


Well .... not really. But perhaps our standards of what constitutes "plain and serviceable" are different. I think padding is inappropriate for teens, bright colours are immodest for their tendency to show through lighter clothing, and wires are unhealthy; and low-cut briefs are more likely to chafe and are less sanitary than classic-cut briefs. Filter those design elements out and VS has a much more limited selection than a vendor like Warners or Fruit of the Loom. The one advantage I can see is that VS bra prices are quite low; but if price is a concern why would one be buying a ten-year-old a bra at all, when all that age usually needs is a little cotton undershirt.

 
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True, we do differ there. I've never liked unlined bras (bras that has a fabric cup), I didn't feel covered in them. I wore lightly padded as a young teen/tween, not pushups though, which I don't think is entirely appropriate for a tween. They don't need that kind of attention at that age.

For most products, I'll say you get what you pay for and that includes bras. VS may be on the more expensive side, but they are well made. But like you, I don't see any sense in buying a $30 bra for a 10 or 11 year old who will probably outgrow it in 6 months or less.
 
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hmmm... how would the boys at the girl's school know this is about them....
anyway, my opinion, Victoria Secrets is way pricey and as fast as kids grow now a days, that would get really expensive. Walmart has pretty, danty panties, so I think they would be just fine with that. Its not like they are getting to show them off ya know, lol, well I hope not!
 
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hmmm... how would the boys at the girl's school know this is about them....

Well, I would certainly HOPE the only way the boys would know this, is by reading on the internet what the girls mothers choose to advertise. Which is why that, while I'm willing to discuss underwear in general terms, I'm not going to make any statements about what I do or don't buy for my daughters.
Actually, I think that VS are on the LESS expensive side. $30 is cheap for a foundation garment, and one should generally not skimp on foundations, whether building a highrise or rearing your child or planning your wardrobe. But a normal ten-year-old doesn't need foundation garments at all, just underwear. (Admittedly I was ten when I got my first girdle, but in those days we needed them to hold up our stockings)
 
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I suppose for the less expensive branches geared towards young teens, $30 isn't uncommon.

But I have bras from VS that I payed close to $50 for. That's expensive for us lol. Although that may be because around here, Victorias Secrete IS the high end underwear/lingerie shop. The only way you can get a bra more expensive than that is if you custom order it.
 
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No, I don't think it's "Old Fashioned" of you at all. This 24 yearold totally agrees (and actually young and rather hip too )
 
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I love VC but don't shop there too often, oh they are so pricey now my daughter is 14 and she has been in there with me to buy something before but as far as letting her buy there I guess it would be according to what it was. Even I get in there sometimes. I really have trouble with the influence all those VC women can have on girls. Like the commercial where they are wearing angel wings. That to me is very tasteless. I think when she is old enough to have a job, then she can make that choice. (but I will be watching)
 
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I bought 3 push up bras from the very sexy push up collection and they all ended up falling apart or the wire came out of them and it wasn't worth the money so save your money. I do however buy the underwear from there PINK collection they always have the 5 for $25 deal.
 
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I have a couple bras from there. I would have never bought them myself, they are too expensive. Someone gave them to me. I loved them.

The pink collection is cute. I found out though that they aren't making 32A's anymore. They have some that don't have a lot of padding and don't do the push up thing that so many do. They are actually nice.
 
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I personally shop there on occasion.. but for a tween? Not even an option in my book. My daughter whom is 14 doesn't need to wear barbie panties any more for sure, but not lacy sexy wear either. They have other places you can purchase age appropriate undergarments. I am married and love to be eye candy for my hubby but that's exactly what VS is for .. Eye Candy.. think about how they market their stuff... Feel Sexy in a wedgie free thong, Feel good about yourself when you have the biggest cleavage out there...

I cannot find it in myself to take my 14 year old girl there this young. But that's just me lol

I do love some of VS clothing line. AND my favorite scent is there
 
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Actually, Victoria's Secret doesn't just have "racy" underthings. There are quite a lot of most cuts for underwear and bras that help support your body better. Not to mention, Victoria's Secret has a better quality of production and fabric. It's a little pricey, but they last longer without problems are easier in the wash when it comes to that "special time" and often conform to growing bodies (like mine after one too many pizza's! )

It's a good idea.
 
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