Tulip

[SeRapH&CheRi]

I know what it stands for, but can someone here please explain to me the essence of each point? (Basically, I'm asking for someone to dumb it down for me. ) I've been attending a Presbyterian church for about three years now and have been grappling with and working through the whole concept of being part of the elect and predestination. Thank you!

 

[JJB]

Romans 9.

I just finished this book and it's an easy and very quick read since half of it is a reference list:

The Five Points of Calvinism, Defined, Defended, and Documented, by Steele, Thomas and Quinn.

 

[cygnusx1]

I can dumb it down ........... I think

total depravity = men love sin and they hate God , to show this God says 'Choose'!


unconditional election = sinners always choose sin , so , God chose us .... to change that.


limited atonement = Jesus did not die in vain , all he died for he actually saved.


irresistable grace = a grace that is able to make a person willing , none are ever forced against their will.


perseverance of the saints = only true Christians can complete the journey of faith , all others fall away.

 

[cygnusx1]

The Hornet Song
When the Canaanites hardened their hearts against God,
And grieved Him because of their sin,
God sent along hornets to bring them to terms,
And to help His own people to win.

If a nest of live hornets were brought to this room,
And the creatures allowed to go free,
You would not need urging to make yourself scarce,
You’d want to get out, don’t you see!

They would not lay hold and by force of their strength,
Throw you out of the window, oh, no!
They would not compel you to go against your will,
But they would just make you willing to go.

When Jonah was sent to the work of the Lord,
The outlook was not very bright.
He never had done such a hard thing before,
So he backed and ran off from the fight.

Now, the Lord sent a gteat fish to swallow him up,
The story I am sure you all know.
God did not compel him to go against his will,
But He just made him willing to go.

CHORUS:
God does not compel us to go, oh, no!
He never compels us to go.
God does not compel us to go against our will,
But He just makes us willing to go.

http://www.reformedreader.org/rbb/r.../gwmwfwch01.htm

 

[mannysee]

i like that, i like that a lot

 

[Paleoconservatarian]

Looks like a good song. I'd love to hear it... with a banjo, of course