Trying to understand these verses

[alexamasan]

A man wrote an article on his blog explaining how the bible supports Sunday worship. In one of the sections he says these verses say Jesus gave the Church the authority to change the 4th commandment. I am personally having trouble understanding the verses and hopefully one of you can explain them to me. I haven't read these books, so I'm also not sure of what the verses before and after these say.

(Mat 18:18 DRB) Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.

(Luk 10:16 DRB) He that heareth you heareth me: and he that despiseth you despiseth me: and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.

(Mat 28:18 DRB) And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth.

And if you're interested, here's the guy's blog where I got this from.

Fiat Volvntas Tua: Does the Bible support Sunday worship?

 

[powermadd400ex]

those verses are speaking about the use of the keys, which is the right to forgive sin in Christ's name. Also the Matthew verse is used before authorizing the Great Commisssion, to make discipels of all nations

Christians are free two worship on ever day, because every day is supposed to be devoted to God. sabbath days were a "shadow of things to come".

 

[fm107]

I agree with power.

A Christian should be worshipping God daily.

Acts 2:46
Every day they continued to meet together in the temple courts. They broke bread in their homes and ate together with glad and sincere hearts,

The Sabbath day was meant for the Jews however it is not a sin to feel that one day is more sacred than another:

Romans 14:5-6
One man considers one day more sacred than another; another man considers every day alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. He who regards one day as special, does so to the Lord. He who eats meat, eats to the Lord, for he gives thanks to God; and he who abstains, does so to the Lord and gives thanks to God.

We are also not to judge someone who feels the Sabbath day is more important to them than other days.

Colossians 2:16
Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink, or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day.


The first scripture is referring to discipline of a brother / sister.

The second scripture is making reference to rejecting the gospel message that Jesus died for you on the cross. If you refuse to listen to this message (and I mean take it to heart and believe) then you are evidently rejecting Christ himself and the one who sent him - God the Father.

The third scripture shows that Jesus had been given the authority from his Father, of which he used to tell his disciples to go into the entire world and preach the gospel.

 

[powermadd400ex]

If you refuse to listen to this message (and I mean take it to heart and believe) then you are evidently rejecting Christ himself and the one who sent him - God the Father.

this is what is important, imo.

 

[seashale76]

NKJV
Matthew 18:18-20
18"Assuredly, I say to you, whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven.
19"Again I say to you that if two of you agree on earth concerning anything that they ask, it will be done for them by My Father in heaven. 20For where two or three are gathered together in My name, I am there in the midst of them."

Commentary from the Orthodox Study Bible:

18:18-20 The authority to bind and loose sins is given to the apostles and transmitted to the bishops and presbyters they ordained. This authority is given for the sake of the salvation of the sinner. The sinner, "seeing that he is not only cast out of the Church, but that the bond of his sin will remain in Heaven, he may turn and become gentle" (John Chr).

NKJV
Matthew 28:18
18And Jesus came and spoke to them, saying, "All authority has been given to Me in heaven and on earth." 19Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all things that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, even to the end of the age." Amen.

Commentary from the Orthodox Study Bible:

28:18 All authority has been given to Me: Christ declares that the authority that was His by nature in His divinity is now also possessed by His glorified human nature. This human nature has now trampled the final enemy-- death (1 Co 15:20-28).

NKJV
Luke 10:13-16
13"Woe to you, Chorazin! Woe to you, Bethsaida! For if the mighty works which were done in you had been done in Tyre and Sidon, they would have repented long ago, sitting in sackcloth and ashes. 14But it will be more tolerable for Tyre and Sidon at the judgment than for you. 15And you, Capernaum, who are exalted to heaven, will be brought down to Hades. 16He who hears you hears Me, he who rejects you rejects Me, and he who rejects Me rejects Him who sent Me."

Commentary from the Orthodox Study Bible:

10:13-16 Judgment is severe for those who reject Christ after experiencing His grace. In contrast, those who have never known Christ due to genuine ignorance are without sin in that regard (Jn 15:22-24), and are instead judged by their God-given conscience (Rom 2:12-16).

 

[Albion]

A man wrote an article on his blog explaining how the bible supports Sunday worship. In one of the sections he says these verses say Jesus gave the Church the authority to change the 4th commandment. I am personally having trouble understanding the verses and hopefully one of you can explain them to me. I haven't read these books, so I'm also not sure of what the verses before and after these say.

(Mat 18:18 DRB) Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.

(Luk 10:16 DRB) He that heareth you heareth me: and he that despiseth you despiseth me: and he that despiseth me despiseth him that sent me.

(Mat 28:18 DRB) And Jesus coming, spoke to them, saying: All power is given to me in heaven and in earth.

I agree with power and fm107. These verses are not the ones that are normally cited in explaining why Sunday became the principle day of worship. They deal with Jesus granting other authority to his Apostles.

Paul writes that we are not to be controlled any longer by the rituals of days and meats that the Hebrews observed in the Old Testament. His epistles are considered inspired because they have been accepted by the whole church as part of the Bible. Therefore, we have a divinely-ordained permission to make ritualistic changes although not to set aside scripture's moral codes (like the Ten Commandments).

 

[alexamasan]

Paul writes that we are not to be controlled any longer by the rituals of days and meats that the Hebrews observed in the Old Testament. His epistles are considered inspired because they have been accepted by the whole church as part of the Bible. Therefore, we have a divinely-ordained permission to make ritualistic changes although not to set aside scripture's moral codes (like the Ten Commandments).

Very interesting answer, would you mind feeding my addiction to biblical evidence by me asking where in the bible Paul says we have this permission?

 

[Albion]

Very interesting answer, would you mind feeding my addiction to biblical evidence by me asking where in the bible Paul says we have this permission?

Sure.

See Colossians 2:16-17; Galatians 4:10-11; and Romans 14:5-6.

 

[John 10:10]

(Mat 18:18 DRB) Amen I say to you, whatsoever you shall bind upon earth, shall be bound also in heaven: and whatsoever you shall loose upon earth, shall be loosed also in heaven.

The more correct translation of Matt 18:18 is as follows,

"Truly I say to you, whatever you bind on earth shall have been bound in heaven ; and whatever you loose on earth shall have been loosed in heaven." (NAS)

Just as Jesus did no work on earth that He did not see His heavenly Father doing in heaven (John 5:19), Christians cannot do any work on earth that we cannot see Jesus doing/having done in heaven. Then we can speak forth what Jesus has done in heaven and bring it earth.

I know this truth is revolutionary to many Christians, but this is how Christians establish God's kingdom on earth until Jesus returns.

Blessings

 

[Van]

Why not keep the sabbath, just as we (professing Christians) keep or attempt to keep the other commandments as summarized with Love God with all your heart and love one another as you love yourself? Jesus seemed not to keep the Sabbath, he was thought to not keep it according to the ritual requirements of the Old Covenant. So either they lied and he did keep it, unlikely or He did not keep the Sabbath, which indicates we are not required to keep it according to the rituals. However, the purpose of the Sabbath was to set apart the Jews for God, and so when we sanctify ourselves in Christ, we are keeping the Sabbath because Christ is the Sabbath, our rest.

As far as I can tell, most people hold a view of the binding verses that differs from mind, so this is may not be solid, but my view is the verses are saying the Apostles are like prophets, unerringly speaking God's word, and therefore if they same something, the same holds true in heaven because God says the same thing. They are not sovereign over God, God is sovereign over them.