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Trying to understand Gematria

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I'm trying to understand what (if anything) G-d is telling us in Gematria.

Could anyone tell me why the Hebrew "life" (בחיי), "Judah" (יהודה),"kill" (הכה), "Ahitub/my Father is goodness" (אביטוב), "Chozeba/falsehood" (אכזב), "I lie" (אכזב), and "trust" (הבוטח); and the Greek "ten" (δεκα) all have a numerical value of 30?

While some of the words with this numerical value seem to have very different meaning, none of them (or at least none of the one's I'm aware of) seem to be exact polar opposites.

So what do they all have in common?

What is the underlying symbolic meaning of 30?

And what about ten?

Does it mean "woe" (הה), or "triumph" (גאו)?

Those are close to polar opposites, so perhaps I could conclude G-d is saying something about human choice, but if I do, am I lying to myself (because the Greek word for ten equals 30, and a word meaning "I lie" has a numerical value of 30)?

This is really giving me a headache.

Did G-d design all these number/word associations to mean something?

And why do the meanings of the words seem so inconsistent?

If anyone has any insight on this, please help.
 
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Dont bother with it, just focus on living a holy life.

But to stay on topic, i believe gematria is a form of witchcraft practiced by kabbalists. I stay away from that stuff.

Also, anyone with sin in their lives must repent, or be cast into the fire.

So you believe that Satan designed the Hebrew and Greek language and numbering systems, and the word/number associations they make possible?

Wouldn't he have knda needed G-d's help to do that?
 
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I'm trying to understand what (if anything) G-d is telling us in Gematria.

Could anyone tell me why the Hebrew "life" (בחיי), "Judah" (יהודה),"kill" (הכה), "Ahitub/my Father is goodness" (אביטוב), "Chozeba/falsehood" (אכזב), "I lie" (אכזב), and "trust" (הבוטח); and the Greek "ten" (δεκα) all have a numerical value of 30?

While some of the words with this numerical value seem to have very different meaning, none of them (or at least none of the one's I'm aware of) seem to be exact polar opposites.

So what do they all have in common?

What is the underlying symbolic meaning of 30?

And what about ten?

Does it mean "woe" (הה), or "triumph" (גאו)?

Those are close to polar opposites, so perhaps I could conclude G-d is saying something about human choice, but if I do, am I lying to myself (because the Greek word for ten equals 30, and a word meaning "I lie" has a numerical value of 30)?

This is really giving me a headache.

Did G-d design all these number/word associations to mean something?

And why do the meanings of the words seem so inconsistent?

If anyone has any insight on this, please help.

Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes numbers mean nothing.
 
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So you believe that Satan designed the Hebrew and Greek language and numbering systems, and the word/number associations they make possible?

Wouldn't he have knda needed G-d's help to do that?

No, but you can "prove" the sky is pink, and the president is secretly a martian from that sort of stuff.

It's like looking into a tea leaves, pointless stuff.

gematria is babylonian witchcraft condemned in bible Gematria Value - English Gematria Calculator

^some humor

Anyways, as I said, if a man still has sin in his life, he needs to cleanse himself of it, and live in obedience to God. That is what counts.
 
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So you believe that Satan designed the Hebrew and Greek language and numbering systems, and the word/number associations they make possible?

Wouldn't he have knda needed G-d's help to do that?

Also... What word number systems are you referring to?

Is there a verse on this?

I prefer reading "some" apocrypha, or try reading the book of Enoch... they have more credence than gematria.

... But first focus on holiness, because without that, we're dead
 
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