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Trump Denies that He Has Anything to do With Project 2025

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It's a bit strange that Donald Trump is now trying to deny that he had anything
to do with the content of the conservative plan, on how to carry out Trump policies,
that is called "Project 2025".

Project 2025 is the product of a conservative think tank called The Heritage
Foundation. And the authors include at least 140 people who were involved in
Trump's administration.

That Trump is trying to distance himself from this plan to implement conservative
policies, is a bit strange. Trump has presented himself as the conservative choice
in this presidential campaign. And that Trump has distanced himself from at least
140 of his previous friends and advisors, is a bit strange.

Project 2025 is a 900 page volume, that probably most American voters will not
read, by the time election day comes around. But there is at least one review of
the full volume...



A common theme in the review by Daniel Payne, is that Trump is irritated
at the checks and balances that are built into the American government
by our founding documents. And, Trump wants to get rid of this "inefficiency".

The approach taken by the Heritage Foundation authors is to make the Presidency
much stronger than the Judicial or Legislative branches of the government. Also,
Trump would seek to make the (currently) independent government agencies
into agencies whose staff were assigned by the current President. This would
mean that these (currently) independent agencies would not be filled with professionals
who do their work independently of political party policies. This would radically change
how much power the 2 big political parties have, to inforce their wishes on the
professional work of these independent agencies. (Things would get VERY strange, if
a President who believed conspiracy theories, tried to enforce these false ideas on
independent agencies in the government, for example.)

Readers should read a review of the Project 2025, and get the full volume, at least
for reference.

Trump's current attempt to distance himself from the Project 2025 policies,
seems to be a result of journalists who have read the Project 2025, and have
pointed out that many of the policies in it would destroy the system of checks
and balances in the Consitutional American government.



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Note that, for Christians, Christians should not be trying to enforce uniquely Christian
values on the American public, through trying to destroy the checks and balanaces
in the Consitutional American government. (Trying to do this would also give this same
power to some non-Christian President, who could enforce Muslim or atheistic values
on Christians, and radically reduce freedom of religion in America.)

This is a topic that Christians should be carefully watching and thinking about,
before the November presidential election.
 

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Why is it strange. He did not write it and had nothing to do with it. The Dems keep trying to tie him to it. The project does not speak for Trump or his campaign. The Dems have their own think tank called The Center for American Progress with its own manifesto.
 
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Why is it strange. He did not write it and had nothing to do with it.

What we can VERIFY about Trump’s connections to Project 2025

Former President Donald Trump has not publicly endorsed Project 2025 by name and has tried to distance himself from the plan. But he has multiple connections to it.
“The 2025 Presidential Transition Project is being organized by The Heritage Foundation and builds off Heritage’s longstanding ‘Mandate for Leadership,’ which has been highly influential for presidential administrations since the Reagan era. Most recently, the Trump administration relied heavily on Heritage’s ‘Mandate’ for policy guidance, embracing nearly two-thirds of Heritage’s proposals within just one year in office,” the page says.


The Heritage Foundation was once more libertarian, but they seem to have abandoned the idea of limited government and balance of powers, in favor of an authoritarian leader.
 
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Further comments on "efficiency", and surface rhetoric...

The Project 2025 use of the word "efficiently", is interesting.
But without fleshing out what the goals of the larger policy is, it is impossible
to address what this word "efficiency" means. (Hitler was very "efficient", in his
extermination camps. The Mafia has been very "efficient", in pillaging
the productivity of good American citizens.)

Taking the surface language -- the rhetoric, the slogans -- of Donald Trump,
or any other politician of either party, is not insightful. (We should be very careful,
to say this clearly.) Everyone uses surface language in speeches and campaigns,
and this surface language does not REALLY (often) lay out the policies that
the political candidate will carry out, IF they get elected into office. Project 2025
is VERY important, because it is over 140 friends and former advisors of Donald Trump,
making it very clear in intentions and goals, what they think that MAGA Trump policies
will be, given the surface rhetoric that Trump uses when campaigning.

Also, when Christians discuss "efficiency" in Project 2025, we should carefully
note that EFFICIENCY CANNOT BE DEFINED, APART FROM A VALUE SYSTEM,
AND INTENDED GOALS of the people using the word "efficiency."

The checks and balances that the foundational documents of Aemrica build
into the American government, build many INEFFICIENCIES into the way that
power is distributed into the 3 branches of the government. That is, the President
cannot do whatever he wished, without regard to the fair rule of law in America, and
the Judiciary that interprets that law, and carries out legal trials. From purely the
President's pint of view, this is very INEFFICIENT. The president CANNOT simply
carry out his own wishes, with respect to his policies.

In the same way, the Judiciary (especially the Supreme Court) must decide
questions of Consitutionality, with regard to the meaning of the Consitutions,
and founding documents of America. The courts CANNOT make decisions,
that discard this foundation of American documents, and the fair rule of law
that exists in established law in America. In one sense, this is a very constrained,
INEFFICIENT system, from the standpoint of members of the Judiciary.

The Legislative branch of government, the Congress. MUST follow strict rules
when proposing new laws, or modifying existing laws. The House and the Senate
CANNOT discard the representative power (as defined in how the Senate and
Congress shall carry out their work) of the States, and the People, when
working on writing laws. In one sense this is very INEFFICIENT, but this
Consitutional structure of PROCESS in writing laws, enforces that the will
of the People to elect representatives, is central to the Process. ALL the states
are represented equally in the Senate. ALL the population of citizens is represented
proportionally in the House. In one sense, THIS IS VERY INEFFICIENT. That is,
because the Process of making law in America, has the representative force
of the states and the People, deeply embedded in the Process.

... For NONE of the 3 branches of the government, is the Constitutional
Process "efficient". The Founding Fathers did not want the Process, to
be "efficient", in some quirky or undefined meaning of the term.
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For a multi-billionaire, whose main concern is how to make more money,
and wants to minimize environmental constraints on business, and wants to
minimize human rights constraints on business, and wants to minimize
considerations of the health and well being of citizens' lives (with regard
to business decisions), it probably would appear that the Office of the
President of the United States, IS NOT AN EFFICIENT DEFINITION OF A
PRESIDENT OF A CORPORATION. Of course, the office of the President
is NOT EFFICIENT, if the office is expected to be an "efficient" definition
of a leader of a trillion dollar corporation. THIS IS BECAUSE THE OFFICE
OF THE PRESIDENT, IS NOT A DEFINITION OF A LEADER OF A TRILLION DOLLAR
CORPORATION. That is not the purpose of the President, as the founding
fathers of America, viewed the office.
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We see that the complete LACK OF COOPERATION that the MAGA Republicans
(especially the Tea Party group) have taken, as policy, when operating in the
House and Senate, tends to kill the productivity of the Congress. This is a
self-imposed inefficiency, and this inefficiency is imposed by the leader of
the Republican Party, Donald Trump, who (it seems) tends to view himself
as a God-given potentate, who holds all-knowledge and all-wisdom about
what the Congress should do. And, who has that exalted view of himself,
along with holding many conspiracy theories that are not supported by
objective data. It makes sense that Donald Trump would find the Constitutional
Process in America, to be very "inefficient".

But, it is insightful for Christians to recognize that the checks and balances
built into the American government, were carefully built in, in order to support the
freedoms of American citizens, and "freedom" in this sense, DOES NOT MEAN
WHATEVER AN INDIVIDUAL PERSON, OR GROUP, WANTS TO DO.

For individuals who want to become President, and then carry out whatever
policies they wish, the serious constraints in the founding documents of
America, and their ideals, will seem like a La Brea tar pit of inefficiency.
This is the way in which American democrative freedoms are defined, and how
they are protected by the 3 branches of the American government. This
Consitutional Process, IS VERY EFFICIENT, with regard to the democratic
freedoms that it was defined to protect. But if the elected President does
not value these historic democratic ideals, then this system of government
will seem hopelessly "inefficient" with regard to the unorthodox, undemocratic
wishes of the President.
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J. Edgar Hoover, the leading shaper of the Federal Bureau of Investigation,
was a bigotted man. He believed, for example, that the white race was superior
to other "races". And, that non-whites would never have the intelligence to
piece together what we would call today, "organized crime syndicates".
For this reason, Hoover believed the conspiracy theory that there was no
Italian Mafia in America (because no Italians could be smart enough to create
an organized crime syndicate...). He ENFORCED this personal bigotry on the
FBI, and for a long time, forbidding it from gathering intelligence on the Mafia, and
then prosecuting the large Italian crime families. This is an example of how
personal bigotries, and conspiracy theories, can cripple parts of the American
government.

Christians need to consider what "efficiency" means, in the context of
American ideals of democracy and freedom. Christians need to realize
where Trump is coming from, when he calls for reform of the American
government for the purpose of "efficiency".

And what Trump means, and what over 140 of his friends and former advisors
mean, in Project 2025, is a goal that is incompatible with the ideals of the
founding American documents, and the fair rule of law that America has.
America has a government of checks and balances, in order to PROTECT
very specific ideals and rights. And for unscrupulous managers who wish
to become elected President of America, these checks and balances are
very inefficient, given their wish to become a tyrant at the head of a
multi-trillion dollar corporation.

This is what the discussion of "efficiency" should include, when we consider
Trump's surface language, and the language that appears in Project 2025.
 
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What we can VERIFY about Trump’s connections to Project 2025

Former President Donald Trump has not publicly endorsed Project 2025 by name and has tried to distance himself from the plan. But he has multiple connections to it.
“The 2025 Presidential Transition Project is being organized by The Heritage Foundation and builds off Heritage’s longstanding ‘Mandate for Leadership,’ which has been highly influential for presidential administrations since the Reagan era. Most recently, the Trump administration relied heavily on Heritage’s ‘Mandate’ for policy guidance, embracing nearly two-thirds of Heritage’s proposals within just one year in office,” the page says.


The Heritage Foundation was once more libertarian, but they seem to have abandoned the idea of limited government and balance of powers, in favor of an authoritarian leader.

It is true, that Trump does not appear in the list of authors included in
Project 2025.

However, as the article states, over 140 of his personal friends and former advisors
wrote the bulk of Project 2025. There is a stron ideological connection between
sympathies that Trump has, and the expressions in Project 2025.

As with former advisors (such as Rudolf Giuliani), when they run afoul of the
law, he denounces that they were doing his bidding. He denounces that they
were carrying out his wishes. This pattern, makes it very suspicious, that
Trump would now, when the Project 2025 document is raising such serious
concerns among American voters, that Trump would deny that these policies
represent the way that Trump thinks.

Also, some of the bazarre statements that Trump has made, seriously suggest that
he considers the restraints of the checks and balances in the American government, and
the fair rule of law in America, and the restrained way in which the Judiciary works in
America, TO BE VERY INEFFICIENT, with regard to his goals. (His comments on
the supposed complete immunity of the president from prosecution, and that felonious
activity regarding financial fraud is not really activity that is hurting anyone), start to
flesh out Trump's understandings of what the PURPOSE and GOALS of the 3 branches
of government in America, ought to be doing. That is, there is a lot of evidence from Trump
directly, that suggests what he means when he uses the word "inefficiency". And this
strongly suggest what his interpretation of the topic of "efficiency" in Project 2025, is.

Technically, you're right -- Trump's name is not included in the authors of Project 2025.
But, the large number of Trump's friends and former advisors, among the authors,
should jar American citizens into serious thought about what Trump wants, as policies.
 
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What we can VERIFY about Trump’s connections to Project 2025

Former President Donald Trump has not publicly endorsed Project 2025 by name and has tried to distance himself from the plan. But he has multiple connections to it.
“The 2025 Presidential Transition Project is being organized by The Heritage Foundation and builds off Heritage’s longstanding ‘Mandate for Leadership,’ which has been highly influential for presidential administrations since the Reagan era. Most recently, the Trump administration relied heavily on Heritage’s ‘Mandate’ for policy guidance, embracing nearly two-thirds of Heritage’s proposals within just one year in office,” the page says.


The Heritage Foundation was once more libertarian, but they seem to have abandoned the idea of limited government and balance of powers, in favor of an authoritarian leader.
cbs...yes such an unbiased source...
 
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It is true, that Trump does not appear in the list of authors included in
Project 2025.

However, as the article states, over 140 of his personal friends and former advisors
wrote the bulk of Project 2025. There is a stron ideological connection between
sympathies that Trump has, and the expressions in Project 2025.

Technically, you're right -- Trump's name is not included in the authors of Project 2025.
But, the large number of Trump's friends and former advisors, among the authors,
should jar American citizens into serious thought about what Trump wants, as policies.
So what.
 
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cbs...yes such an unbiased source...
Yep. Pretty much center-left.

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