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I just read through the thread and I have got to admire all those who had the patience and fortitude to deal with SOF. I find it amazing that he can shout to everyone that he is a patriot yet at the same time want to tear down the fabric of the country he claims to be a patriot of. If he but understood that an organisation like the ACLU is one of only a few that is standing between him and tyranny, he might change his tune, thought I doubt it. In the end I suppose he would embrace a tyranny if, and only if, that tyranny was based on "his personal" interpretations on the bible, "his personal" perceptions of the creator and "his personal" ideas of what constitutes christianity. There are times when I almost hoped there really were a god, if only to see the look on SOF's face when he found out that he (SOF) was dead wrong about everything he believed. That would be a priceless moment.
 
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Is it really such a bad thing for America to fail? As a US citizen I accept that the idea of America is worthwhile, but the reality is a horrific aberration from what should be so IMO it's not really worth defending.
 
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Is it really such a bad thing for America to fail? As a US citizen I accept that the idea of America is worthwhile, but the reality is a horrific aberration from what should be so IMO it's not really worth defending.

Then it's not really "America" that should fail, but what it's been turned into by the people we were foolish enough to leave in charge. Only then can we restore America.
 
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ShieldOFaith has been "free" with his allegations, but accusations/convictions against prominent Republicans and the members of the Religious Right indicate that with their "glass houses" in disarray, they are no position to claim moral superiority over the ACLU or anybody else.

Accusations are not always supported by fact, but such "legal techicalities" have never deterred conservatives in their "self righteous" crusades in the past
 
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As it's been pointed out before, the radicalized far-right are hypocrites and morally bankrupt.

Add two more to the list.

Larry Craig - the Republican Politician whos career went down the drain after he was arrested for sticking his food underneath the stall and "rubbing" an undercover agent's foot in an airport restroom. The agent was there on a sting for solicitation for anonymous sex, since it had been an on-going problem with that restroom. The signal that Craig was passing to the officer was known to be the "green light" for anonymous homosexual sex.

Ted Haggard - What is there really to said? A man of "God" who who engaged in drug use and sex with a male prostitute.
 
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Is it really such a bad thing for America to fail? As a US citizen I accept that the idea of America is worthwhile, but the reality is a horrific aberration from what should be so IMO it's not really worth defending.

Every nation will eventually fail. Every nation has. God tells us to look to Him and His gift of eternal life, not nations. Even the Earth and Sun shall pass.

 
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The vileness of the a.c.l.u. is documented.

Their hatred for the U.S. is legendary.

They should be arrested for Treason, and sentenced accordingly.

This is right and good.

The time to act is now, before we have not country left.
Shield...you would have everyone who does not agree with you arrested or eliminated some how. So why is the ACLU any different than everyone else?

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Are you suggesting that America's Constitution and Bill of Rights are really communist text? WOW...that IS a serious charge!! That would make all of the founding fathers communist sympathizers.

All the ACLU is doing is working within the confines of our Constitution and Bill of Rights. That's all. The ONLY way they could be defending communism is if our constitution was a communist test. If you don't like the Constitution and Bill of Rights...you do need to start your own country. Because here in America they define our rights as Americans....and your clearly not liking the rights the founding fathers gave us.


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In all fairness, the Democrats aren't much better, but at least Clinton and Spitzer were caught having sex with women.
 
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Then it's not really "America" that should fail, but what it's been turned into by the people we were foolish enough to leave in charge. Only then can we restore America.

Absolutely...that's why I said I was patriotic to America as an idea. And very much so, I might add...I love the principle of a country based on freedom and human rights. But it has had it's chance and failed miserably so why should we care anymore? If that beautiful idea can be saved then I hope it is, but I'm very sceptical that that's possible given the state of US political discussion.
 
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Because having sex with a man would be a bad thing, right?
It's the irony behind all of this. It's the Republicans who are the loudest voice against homosexuals...yet they are the ones who are having the most homosexual controversies surrounding them.

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Now I'm beginning to understand how one can accummulate 19 548 posts and 460 179 reps in 3 years
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1. the best defense is a good offense
2. why confuse the issue with facts
3. rely on gross generalities
4. frustrate the opposition/avoid logic at all costs
5. limit your responses to "one liners"
6. personal attacks are good substitutes for logical responses
7. redirect the "discussion" rather than respond
8. don't waste time researching
9. assume your opposition are all fools - afterall they 're wasting their time responding to you
10. if in doubt declare that the opponnent's post is irrelevant to the point (Another irrelevant post which does not even attempt to address the point.)
 
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Another irrelevant post which does not even attempt to address the point
 
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