Touched by an Angel

[he_is_risen!!]

I was just wondering what Your opinions of the show are. I like it but I've noticed that they have a couple episodes that seems kinda iffy in if they are Biblically accurate. Is it a good influance or do the inaccuracys make it more of a stumbling stone? Or is there not enough focus on God but on angels?

 

[revrobor]

A stumbling block for whom? The message in every episode is "God loves you". Let's not get nick-picky about doctrine and dogma. It is NOT, after all, a Biblical epic.

 

[mshupe1959]

yup, it gives you nice warm fuzzies. remember it is just entertainment. I used to llike watching it when it was on. I hope it got /gets people to thinking. It could have been used to point a little more to the gospel.

 

[he_is_risen!!]

i know that I had just heard people say that is was not putting enough focus on CHrist and that since it wasn't 100% accurate it gave a slated view of CHristianity. I was just asking. I love the show and I'm pretty annoyed that it was canceled.

 

[revrobor]

The show is on the Hallmark channel Monday through Friday at 8:00pm. Sometimes also at 10:00pm.

 

[he_is_risen!!]

The show is on the Hallmark channel Monday through Friday at 8:00pm. Sometimes also at 10:00pm.

Thanks.

 

[Ginny]

Well, if we want to get technical, I heard an interview done over the radio with the producer/writer of the show. He basically stated that he refused to use the word JESUS in any of the episodes...that all people believe in a God...

If you ask me, unless it is about Jesus, I don't want to have anything to do with it..especially after that interview I heard. People are such weinies sometimes...they don't want to offend anyone. BLEH!

Remember, many people believe in "God", but unless they believe in Jesus and his sacrifice for us...it is not the same God.

It has to be about JESUS or the faith means nothing as we know it as CHRISTians.
Correct, maybe it got "people thinking" but hopefully that "thinking" turns to Jesus at some point.

 

[StevenL]

It is DECEPTION.

 

[Lynn73]

I agree with Ginny and StevenL. While I enjoy watching the show for entertainment and a few "warm fuzzies" it isn't biblically accurate and it is deceptive in that the name of Jesus Christ is never mentioned. I remember one show where someone directly asked Monica what to do to be able to come to God (or something like that), the answer came back with not a mention of Christ. People who don't know the Bible and the true gospel can watch this and be deceived. I can watch it and enjoy it but it's pure fiction. Martha Williamson, a lady who works on the show is supposed to be a Christian but I doubt I could work on a show where the actors weren't allowed to ever mention the central figure of Christianity.

 

[stone]

it's just entertainment, nothing wrong with entertainment, it's not like your going to church when you power up the old tube. or lcd or plasma....

 

[StevenL]

it's just entertainment, nothing wrong with entertainment, it's not like your going to church when you power up the old tube. or lcd or plasma....

This is how people are deceived.

 

[revrobor]

Hearing or "believing in" the name of Jesus is not a requirement for salvation. Yet people continue to insist that is the case. When Jesus said "No on can come to the Father except through me" and the Bible says "...there is no other name under heaven given among me whereby we must be saved" what is being said is that it is what Jesus did and only what Jesus did that grants mankind salvation for those who choose to follow God. Again, when Jesus said "... I am the way, the truth and the life" He was saying it is what He did that provides salvation NOT that a person must believe that He was who He said He was and did what He said He did. When John 3:16 says "...God gave His son that whosoever believes in Him should not parish..." it is saying whosoever believes in GOD. Read Romans chapter one. It makes it clear that there are those who never hear the name of Jesus who will be saved. BUT, they will be saved ONLY because of what Jesus did on the cross.

When people call Jesus "the central figure of Christianity" they are talking about a religious movement. Jesus never established a religious movement or a religious institution (we call it the "church") but called people to follow Him. Follow Him doing what? Walking in absolute obedience to God the Father. It is well past time we stopped trying to persuade people into our religious movement and showed them the way to God. If the church today was as effective as the early church shown in the book of Acts there would hardly be an unsaved person on the face of the Earth. But, for centuries, the Church has been too busy setting up and defending its religious institutions, rules, regulations, doctrine and dogma to effectively show people the Way to God.

Some posts in this thread are good examples of that as they insist "Touched By An Angel" cannot be of any value as it does not propagate the doctrine they have learned in their religious institution when in reality the show talks about God's love for man in every episode. It would be better to invite an unsaved friend over to your house to view an episode and then explain to him HOW God's love for him made his salvation possible than to take that friend to many of the churches I've been involved with the last 57 years.

We need to praise God for and use any media that may cause people to stop and consider the possibility that God really does exist rather than trying to push the doctrine of our favorite religious movement on them.

 

[StevenL]

John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Revrobor says: "He was saying it is what He did that provides salvation NOT that a person must believe that He was who He said He was and did what He said He did."

Another fine example of how people are DECEIVED. Believing on the Christ is not a religious movement. Believing that Yeshua was who He said He was and that He did what He said ....that He was the Anointed One Who died for the sins of the world and was raised from the dead for our justification....IS SALVATION. Presenting a "god" to people without presenting what Yeshua DID and Who He WAS is a FALSE GOSPEL. And may it be accursed.

Touched by an Angel presents such a FALSE GOSPEL. It is deception.

 

[Ginny]

It's all about Jesus. period.

 

[Jatopian]

I would shun it. It is very New-Agey, like Joan of Arcadia.

 

[revrobor]

John 8:23 And he said unto them, Ye are from beneath; I am from above: ye are of this world; I am not of this world. 24I said therefore unto you, that ye shall die in your sins: for if ye believe not that I am he, ye shall die in your sins.

John 6:29 Jesus answered and said unto them, This is the work of God, that ye believe on him whom he hath sent.

Revrobor says: "He was saying it is what He did that provides salvation NOT that a person must believe that He was who He said He was and did what He said He did."

Another fine example of how people are DECEIVED. Believing on the Christ is not a religious movement. Believing that Yeshua was who He said He was and that He did what He said ....that He was the Anointed One Who died for the sins of the world and was raised from the dead for our justification....IS SALVATION. Presenting a "god" to people without presenting what Yeshua DID and Who He WAS is a FALSE GOSPEL. And may it be accursed.

Touched by an Angel presents such a FALSE GOSPEL. It is deception.

In most cases the word "believe", when used in reference to Jesus, means "to cling to" or "to follow" NOT give mental assent to and Jesus was talking to those who HEAR the Gospel. Romans chapter one proves there will be those who will be saved without ever hearing the name of Jesus but have chosen to follow God because He was revealed to them in His creation (their salvation being made possible because of what Jesus did on the cross) and there will be those who refuse to surrender to God (as revealed in creation) who will be "without excuse" on judgement day. You can't throw out some Scripture because it doesn't fit your particular brand of Christianity.

 

[StevenL]

I'm not throwing out Scriptures. I'm not advocating any particular brand of christianity. I'm warning people about a false gospel and a false spirit....coming through Touched by an Angel. That's what we're discussing here. And it is false. It is deception.

 

[revrobor]

I'm not throwing out Scriptures. I'm not advocating any particular brand of christianity. I'm warning people about a false gospel and a false spirit....coming through Touched by an Angel. That's what we're discussing here. And it is false. It is deception.

In your post you stated I had been deceived. If you read my posts carefully you will see that I state that salvation is made possible only through the sacrifice of Jesus. Where's the deception?

As far as "Touched By An Angel" is concerned it does not preach any "Gospel" (the Good News of Jesus' sacrifice). It simply tells the viewer that God loves them. What's false about that?

 

[Ginny]

Romans chapter one proves there will be those who will be saved without ever hearing the name of Jesus but have chosen to follow God because He was revealed to them in His creation (their salvation being made possible because of what Jesus did on the cross) and there will be those who refuse to surrender to God (as revealed in creation) who will be "without excuse" on judgement day.

Still, you are talking about people living on some island in the middle of the Pacific ocean or some tribe in the middle of the Amazon.

The focus is Touched by an Angel. I don't think that anyone that has seen that show in English or any other language and has access to a television has not heard the name of Jesus or have an idea of what Christianity is ....so Romans and the people it is pertaining to has nothing to do with this thread.

It is about a show that refuses to say the name Jesus to ANYONE AND EVERYONE that watches the show for SECULAR reasons. How weak is that?

Being saved IS all about Jesus and without Him there would be NO salvation. I'd like to meet that person that has access to public television and has never heard in their entire life the name "Jesus". C'mon. Let's get back to the OP.

 

[StevenL]

In your post you stated I had been deceived. If you read my posts carefully you will see that I state that salvation is made possible only through the sacrifice of Jesus. Where's the deception?

As far as "Touched By An Angel" is concerned it does not preach any "Gospel" (the Good News of Jesus' sacrifice). It simply tells the viewer that God loves them. What's false about that?

I quoted your point of deception and then gave two Scriptures to refute it.

The show "simply tells the viewer that God loves them" (preaches the good news to them - by definition) without telling them the rest of the story. Namely, that they must repent and be baptized INTO THE NAME OF YESHUA THE ANOINTED (JESUS CHRIST) for the remission of their sins. That they must recognize JESUS CHRIST, Who He was and what He did on that tree, that He was crucified and spent three days in a tomb DEAD and that on the third day He was raised from the dead. That He has now poured out His Spirit on all flesh. That without the person's recognition of these facts, there is no mercy and no salvation extended toward this person at all but only an expectation of future DEATH. This is the reason that Paul stated in Acts 20, to the elders at Ephesus, that he was clean from the blood of all people BECAUSE HE DID NOT HOLD BACK FROM TELLING THEM THE WHOLE COUNSEL OF GOD. Telling people only a snippet of the "truth" is not truth at allbut a LIE, and will lead them to destruction.

This message is conspicuously ABSENT from the God-is-love message of Touched by an Angel. And make no mistake about it, the show is a message. By an "angel" masquerading as an "angel of light." So was its predecessor Highway to Heaven.

I don't think most people in churches today have understood that this world and the media in it (including a lot of "church" activity is ruled by A SPIRIT...an "angel" or Messenger, if you will, who works in the sons of DISOBEDIENCE. Ephesians 2:1-3. Please rethink the idea that some things that proceed from the world are just benign forms of entertainment. Everthing in the world is tainted and is designed to destroy mankind. 1 John 2:15-17. James 4:4.

These are days of GREAT DECEPTION AND APOSTASY people of God! Be on your guard....beware! Be watching day and night. Don't slack up. Don't fall for "another Jesus" or "another spirit" or "another gospel" that Paul warned us about in 2 Corinthians chapter 11. If the assemblies then, with all the manifestations of the Holy Spirit working in their midst, were prone to accept this false Thing, how much more are "churches" today, in the state they are in, susceptible to this "angel". Don't be led astray, like Eve, by this "serpent". Get into your Scriptures, day and night. This is not a game. And the world is not here for your entertainment. Everything of the world (1 John 2:16) is here for your destruction. Please remember that.