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Good Day, GMM
These are commands or requests, but the validity of the command or request are not depenant on ones abilty to carry them out.
No man Can come to me.
The command to come is valid.
Love the Lord they God with all thine heart, valid command.
It is still valid even though you are unable to do so.
I belive this error was addressed long ago:
God command what thou will, and grant what thou command.
In Him,
Bill
For God to command that which man is unable to do would be incongruous. How can God be anything other than disingenuous if this were the case?
Surely Isaiah 55:6-7 and John 6:44 amount to synergism?
Goopd day,
Not so in the objective reality of Scripture.
Come unto me....
No man can come in John speaks to mans inabilty to come has nothing to do with synergism per say.
.... Unless GOD (my Father) does some thing namely draws. That action is synergistic as God does the action of (draw)
The 10 commandments are valid commands how do you do keeping those every second of your life.
In Him,
Bill
I'm not following your argument Bill.
It is possible not to break the commandments (I'm not saying that anyone achieves 100% perfection in this).
For God to command that which man is unable to do would be incongruous. How can God be anything other than disingenuous if this were the case?
Surely Isaiah 55:6-7 and John 6:44 amount to synergism?
God most assuredly commands that which is impossible.
How about the 10 commandments? We are told that it is impossible to keep the law, in the NT. The Law exists not as a means of salvation but as a mirror and standard to see sin by. Thus the law exists as something impossible for any man except Christ.
And again, Christ said "be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect". Is that possible? Of course not.
Thus, I derive two truths from these facts:
1) Command does not imply ability
1A) in some cases, it instead serves to show our inability, in fact.
2) God has, and does, command what is impossible.
God most assuredly commands that which is impossible.
How about the 10 commandments? We are told that it is impossible to keep the law, in the NT. The Law exists not as a means of salvation but as a mirror and standard to see sin by. Thus the law exists as something impossible for any man except Christ.
And again, Christ said "be perfect as your Father in heaven is perfect". Is that possible? Of course not.
Thus, I derive two truths from these facts:
1) Command does not imply ability
1A) in some cases, it instead serves to show our inability, in fact.
2) God has, and does, command what is impossible.
That's silly.
We can obey God.
it's not hard at all
the scriptures say, "not burdensome"
You CAN obey God? I cannot obey God in my own ability. Jesus said, "apart from Me, you can do nothing."
That means, apart from His Spirit working in me, I cannot obey Him. Even the apostle Paul said, "in his inner man he delighted in God's law, but was UNABLE to carry it out." Romans 7:18
there are a lot more sins than those few you mentioned , are you preaching the gospel to every creature you meet? what about sins you don't even know you commit?? are you ever angry? ect ect common grace is a wonderfull thingWith all due respect Shula, you, and every other person CAN obey God. Are you telling me you commit adultery and do NOT have the ability to obey God and stop this horrible sin? Do you commit murder wherever you go? How can you say you have no ability to obey God?
And did you not have this ability before you came to Him? Did you steal at every store you shopped? Did you not have the ability to not lie? Or did you lie with every word out of your mouth?
So Paul couldn't carry out God's command to not murder? Did Paul have sex with all the women of the churches he visited? Was he unable to carry out God's command to flee fornication?
I have no idea where people get this belief. I think it can be called 'extreme' Calvinism. On paper, it might look good, but in reality, it doesn't hold water. Everyday, everywhere, the unregenerate have the ability to obey God. If not, we would have rampant murder, theft, and adultery on every corner and in every house.
No offense, but if you cannot obey God from your own ability, I don't know if I would want to be around you and those who believe this. I would be safer around the unregenerate who do have the ability to refrain from murder and adultery.
With all due respect Shula, you, and every other person CAN obey God. Are you telling me you commit adultery and do NOT have the ability to obey God and stop this horrible sin? Do you commit murder wherever you go? How can you say you have no ability to obey God?
And did you not have this ability before you came to Him? Did you steal at every store you shopped? Did you not have the ability to not lie? Or did you lie with every word out of your mouth?
So Paul couldn't carry out God's command to not murder? Did Paul have sex with all the women of the churches he visited? Was he unable to carry out God's command to flee fornication?
I have no idea where people get this belief. I think it can be called 'extreme' Calvinism. On paper, it might look good, but in reality, it doesn't hold water. Everyday, everywhere, the unregenerate have the ability to obey God. If not, we would have rampant murder, theft, and adultery on every corner and in every house.
No offense, but if you cannot obey God from your own ability, I don't know if I would want to be around you and those who believe this. I would be safer around the unregenerate who do have the ability to refrain from murder and adultery.
Hi Arcoe...
No offense taken. However, my only response is simple: NO. Before God rescued me and gave me a new birth, I was NOT able to carry out His law and desires.
Even after Paul was saved, He said He was not able to carry them out. Romans 7:18. Paul admitted that apart from God's grace working in him, he couldn't obey. Was Paul himself misled?
If I obey Jesus ,it's because it's Jesus living His life in me. He said, apart from Me, you can do NOTHING."
That's okay. You don't have to feel comfortable with me. My soul finds rest in God alone anyway
Blessings.
The T in Calvinisms Total Depravity/Inability states:
Because of the Fall, man is unable of himself to savingly believe the gospel. The sinner is dead, blind and deaf to the things of God; his heart is deceitful and desperately corrupt. His will is not free; it is in bondage to his evil nature. Therefore he will notindeed cannotchoose good over evil in the spiritual realm.
Whats a flesh nature?
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