I am amazed by what some people consider 'sin'. Homosexuality, over eating, drinking moderately, women dressing in trousers (pants), women having cropped hair and so many, many more. Good grief there are genuine problems in this world that need addressing without dredging up 'sins' that to most people aren't sins at all. We should be concentrating on poverty, climate change and a host of important things, not silly little nonsenses. If God is so petty minded that he bothers about stuff like that then he is a very sad deity imo!
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Too Many sins!!!!
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One of the attactions of christianity (and other belief systems) is living within well defined boundries. While some of us rebel against that many people find it comforting and it makes them feel secure knowing that if they live their life 'inside the lines' they will be rewarded in the end. It keeps them from having to think about alot of things and gives them a way to measure themselves against others. Unfortunately people get so caught up in fortifying their boundries they don't have much time for other things.
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I've had the (voluntary) Nazarite vows quoted at me for why I shouldn't drink.
The person quoting it at me had short hair (and I have long). Neither one of us saw any problem with going to funerals (and going near a corpse is prohibited in those vows).
So, apparently, it's just 1 out of 3. I've got long hair, so I can drink.
But, yes, there are worse things to worry about...
Like the occult satanic world that JK Rowling is trying to bring in with her Harry Potter books! (J/K)
Some people don't want to deal with existing large details. They'd rather make up a problem that doesn't actually threaten them and go after that instead. Hm. Perhaps that's what superstition is at it's core?
The person quoting it at me had short hair (and I have long). Neither one of us saw any problem with going to funerals (and going near a corpse is prohibited in those vows).
So, apparently, it's just 1 out of 3. I've got long hair, so I can drink.
But, yes, there are worse things to worry about...
Like the occult satanic world that JK Rowling is trying to bring in with her Harry Potter books! (J/K)
Some people don't want to deal with existing large details. They'd rather make up a problem that doesn't actually threaten them and go after that instead. Hm. Perhaps that's what superstition is at it's core?
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Yes, quite true
Some people aren't the experimenting kind that want to try everything at least once, so they can just for themselves. They prefer to keep within the limits feeling safe.
But as you say, the purpose of those limits is not the limits themselves and they should not be worshipped.
In a purely theological way, sin is by definition transgression of a divine commandment - nothing else is sin. But although some act is not sin, it is not necessarily healthy.
Live, learn, and love - if you do that, you can't go all wtong, imho.
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Like the occult satanic world that JK Rowling is trying to bring in with her Harry Potter books! 
I would much sooner my children (if they were young) read the very moral HP books than the nasty bits of the Bible that major on violence and God supposedly zapping people for trivia!
I would much sooner my children (if they were young) read the very moral HP books than the nasty bits of the Bible that major on violence and God supposedly zapping people for trivia!
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Skydancing said:Like the occult satanic world that JK Rowling is trying to bring in with her Harry Potter books!
I would much sooner my children (if they were young) read the very moral HP books than the nasty bits of the Bible that major on violence and God supposedly zapping people for trivia!
I put a (J/K), which means "Joking" at the end of that statement. I was being sarcastic. But, yeah, I'd rather have my kids read HP before reading Judges.
What's funny is that the reasons people say God blasted them for usually aren't the reasons in the Bible.
Sodom and Gamorra? Not blown up because of homosexuals, they were blown up because of pride, ill-treatment of the poor, and basically being American (J/K, but they were, again, being nasty in general, but especially to the poor).
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Oh please help us...an American with a sense of humor!!!!!
J/K I love the USA sense of humor!!!
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People like having specific rules, rather than being responsible for the consquences of their choices.Skydancing said:
Even better if the rules mostly ban things that they don't particularly want to do anyway and they can justify ignoring the ones that affect them.
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Even better if the rules mostly ban things that they don't particularly want to do anyway and they can justify ignoring the ones that affect them.
I do so agree with you! The Bible is often used to justify the unjustifiable!
I do so agree with you! The Bible is often used to justify the unjustifiable!
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why can't i find a woman as wise and smart as you my age??
My darling, I am not very smart, I wish I was! Age brings with a little bit of wisdom, but I am not that wise either, or I wouldn't be persistently landing myself in situations that have caused my Guardian Angel to be on extended sick leave due to stress!!
My darling, I am not very smart, I wish I was! Age brings with a little bit of wisdom, but I am not that wise either, or I wouldn't be persistently landing myself in situations that have caused my Guardian Angel to be on extended sick leave due to stress!!
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There are two things to consider:
1- The purpose of the law (which defines sin) is to point out our need for salvation.
2-Sin is spelled out in detail in the given law.
If it isn't, then it isn't sin.
It may be less than ideal or unadvisable , but it isn't sin
1- The purpose of the law (which defines sin) is to point out our need for salvation.
2-Sin is spelled out in detail in the given law.
If it isn't, then it isn't sin.
It may be less than ideal or unadvisable , but it isn't sin
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Many of the so called 'sins' aren't sins by the standard of reasonable people so can be ignored imo!
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