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You see you are just giving your ideas again, mine are that yours are just plain wrong, but unlike your ideas mine are with reference to the Bible, to which I have been referring.Maybe self-righteousness is deciding that YOU know what is "sin" for other people, that your interpretation of the Bible is the right one for other people and that their interpretation is wrong. Maybe that is self-righteousness. And maybe that is the sin. Just a possibility.
Maybe self-righteousness is deciding that YOU know what is "sin" for other people, that your interpretation of the Bible is the right one for other people and that their interpretation is wrong. Maybe that is self-righteousness. And maybe that is the sin. Just a possibility.
Actually, He's not snowed at all. But since this was about you and your beliefs, not Him, I'm not real sure what your point was.Funny. God tells us what sin is. He makes no bones about it. I don't argue with Him with high-falutin' language, either. He isn't snowed easily.
...wait...are you saying "If the Holy Spirit REALLY lived in you you wouldn't sin."?When you have the Holy Spirit living in you, you don;t make too many errors where sin is concerned.
I'm a big believer in Gods faithfulness, soHe is faithful to let us know!
Uhmmm...so Roman Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans, Baptists, Pentecostals etc would all read the Bible and come to same conclusions about every single thing in it?There is only one interpretation of the Bible, and He tells us all what it is.
Really?The Body of Christ is united in this.
So...as long as they agree with you they are right and where they disagree they are sinning?Those who are out of step with the Body of Christ are sinning, obviously.
Actually, He's not snowed at all. But since this was about you and your beliefs, not Him, I'm not real sure what your point was.
...wait...are you saying "If the Holy Spirit REALLY lived in you you wouldn't sin."?
I'm happy about that, at least!I'm a big believer in Gods faithfulness, so!
Uhmmm...so Roman Catholics, Orthodox, Anglicans, Baptists, Pentecostals etc would all read the Bible and come to same conclusions about every single thing in it?
Really?
So...as long as they agree with you they are right and where they disagree they are sinning?
tulc(that doesn't sound...right)
It's not about me--it's about Jesus. Everything's about Him!
Uhmmm ok.When the Holy Spirit is living in a person in fullness of power and gifting, that person doesn't deliberately EMBRACE sin! He has the fruit of self-control and exercises it. Whether he is a new believer or a mature one, he has the discernment and Holy Spirit stirrings that warn him that what he is thinking is sin! In a Christian who truly loves Jesus and follows Him, you won't find that kind of perversion acted out without great remorse and search for help.
Hey! We agree on something! Yeah us!I'm happy about that, at least!
...you believe the Pope is the head of the Church on Earth?Sadly, sectariansim causes divisions that God hates. However, true believers, the Church of Jesus Christ, are unified in matters of sin and all basic doctines of Jesus Christ.
I believe they will be, and I believe we can do our best here but the unity you seem to think we have here on Earth? I think that's why Jesus said we are to love one another not we are to be same as one another.Yes, really. The Church, the brethren in Christ, are united.
Uhmmm again, it isn't Jesus people are disagreeing with, it's your view of Jesus. There's a difference.It doesn't sound right because you are wrong. The church of Jesus Christ worldwide AGREES WITH JESUS! where they disagree with Him and His word, they sin! Unfortunately, homosexuals do that in every instance, and those who encourage them are just as guilty as they water down the gospel, influenced by secularism, this society's general immorality, and fear of not being counted among the popular view. Jesus Christ will have His day, and He will require your compromise to be paid for.
tulc said:...you believe the Pope is the head of the Church on Earth?
tulc said:Uhmmm again, it isn't Jesus people are disagreeing with, it's your view of Jesus. There's a difference.
tulc(glad we could agree on something at last!)
Uh--no. It is Jesus people here who support the sin of homosexuality are disagreeing with. I am with God wholeheartedly in the matter. There is no difference!
Is that clearer?Uhmmm again, it isn't Jesus, people are disagreeing with, it's your view of Jesus. There's a difference. (emph. added)
Where did you get that ghastly notion?
Dear Ohioprof,
You see you are just giving your ideas again, mine are that yours are just plain wrong, but unlike your ideas mine are with reference to the Bible, to which I have been referring.
Funny. God tells us what sin is. He makes no bones about it. I don't argue with Him with high-falutin' language, either. He isn't snowed easily.
When you have the Holy Spirit living in you, you don;t make too many errors where sin is concerned. He is faithful to let us know! There is only one interpretation of the Bible, and He tells us all what it is. The Body of Christ is united in this. Those who are out of step with the Body of Christ are sinning, obviously.
We aren't talking about interpretation, we are talking about disbelief, what you call interpretation is often disbelief.If there is only one interpretation of the Bible, then why are all these Christians interpreting it differently from each other?
I wouldnt say there was, I would say Chistians are clear about it.Christians do not seem united to me over the issue of how to regard gay people. There is currently much division between Christians over that issue.
Dear Ohiprof,
We aren't talking about interpretation, we are talking about disbelief, what you call interpretation is often disbelief.
I wouldnt say there was, I would say Chistians are clear about it.
No you are talking about interpretation and I am talking about disbelief.Of course we are talking about interpretation.
But Christians believe the Bible.Different Christians interpret the Bible differently
The Bible tells us there is no such thing as same-sex marriage so the Bible wont say anything about it whether people look for it or not.when it comes to the question of what the Bible says or does not say about same-sex marriage.
yes they are, I believe Christians believe the Bible and I have given you what the Bible says. I have also asked you to consider that marriage is described throughout the Bible as man and woman which is opposite sex, your idea of same-sex marriage is unbiblical its, ad you are using a non-Biblical idea to try and judge the Bible by.Your argument that Christians are "clear" about same-sex marriage
Well that’s you deciding which particular people are or are not Christian again, that’s against the rules.implies that those who disagree with your particular interpretation of the Bible are not Christians.
The Bible tells us there is no such thing as same-sex marriage so the Bible wont say anything about it whether people look for it or not.
It tells us marriage is man and woman which is opposite sex isnt it, so whoever got the idea of 'same-sex marriage' needs to explain where they got such a nonsense unBiblical idea from and what on earth they are on about.Wait ... if the bible tells us there is no such thing as same-sex marriage, why wouldn't it say anything about it?
hmmm I forgot a comma!Sorry! that should read:
Is that clearer?
tulc(really needs more coffee)
There is a large part of the Body of Christ that does indeed believe that, and that seems like a pretty fundamental belief for people to disagree about. My point is we (Christians) have some pretty divergent beliefs and for you to say we agree on most things I'm going to have to say "uhmmm not so much."
tulc(loves the fact that we don't have to agree on everything to be brothers and sisters in the Lord)
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