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kingskid · Sep 6, 2016

From link. ...."The White House says it is following both the law and tradition in deciding which events are official, and thus paid for by taxpayers."

All I can say is the law and tradition is a lot like the law and tradition to which Hillary was not convicted for the same things that a normal citizen would have been convicted for.

essentialsaltes · Sep 6, 2016

kingskid said:
From link. ...."The White House says it is following both the law and tradition in deciding which events are official, and thus paid for by taxpayers."

All I can say is the law and tradition is a lot like the law and tradition to which Hillary was not convicted for the same things that a normal citizen would have been convicted for.

I'm not sure what you're trying to insinuate, but at least we're clear that both Republican and Democratic presidents have made free use of this law and tradition.

MrSpikey · Sep 6, 2016

kingskid said:
All I can say is the law and tradition is a lot like the law and tradition to which Hillary was not convicted for the same things that a normal citizen would have been convicted for.

The reason that she was not charged, lack of mens rea, isn't selective - any citizen wouldn't be face a trial if the prosecutors did not think they could show a "guilty mind" in relation to their actions on a charge like this.

As for your talk of being her being "convicted", I hope that should you ever have to face a trial yourself, you have jurors who take "innocent until proven guilty" rather more seriously than you do.

kingskid · Sep 7, 2016

MrSpikey said:
The reason that she was not charged, lack of mens rea, isn't selective - any citizen wouldn't be face a trial if the prosecutors did not think they could show a "guilty mind" in relation to their actions on a charge like this.

As for your talk of being her being "convicted", I hope that should you ever have to face a trial yourself, you have jurors who take "innocent until proven guilty" rather more seriously than you do.

http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/06/sorry-mark-cuban-hillary-clinton-unquestionably-guilty/

J Cord · Sep 7, 2016

Oafman said:
USA Freedom Kids, a song and dance troupe of pre-teen girls, sues Trump campaign over broken deal

I wonder if God was thinking of Trump when He coined the phrase "a leopard can't change it's spots"? (Jeremiah 13:23)

essentialsaltes · Sep 7, 2016

kingskid said:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/06/sorry-mark-cuban-hillary-clinton-unquestionably-guilty/

Now now now. This thread is Today in Trump. Stick to the topic, please.

TLK Valentine · Sep 7, 2016

Today, because of Donald Trump, the Dallas Morning News endorsed Hillary Clinton -- the first time they've endorsed a Democrat in 75 years.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/e...ommend-hillary-clinton-for-u.s.-president.ece

We've been critical of Clinton's handling of certain issues in the past. But unlike Donald Trump, Hillary Clinton has experience in actual governance, a record of service and a willingness to delve into real policy.

Resume vs. resume, judgment vs. judgment, this election is no contest.

And, with the most recent Texas polls showing a dead heat, there's a very real possibility that Trump might be the first Republican in decades to lose Texas.

Let that sink in: Donald Trump, a "Republican," might lose Texas.

Why the quotes around Republican? Ask them:

http://beta.dallasnews.com/opinion/...ublican?_ga=1.154251640.1997348550.1470775380

We have no interest in a Republican nominee for whom all principles are negotiable, nor in a Republican Party that is willing to trade away principle for pursuit of electoral victory.

Trump doesn't reflect Republican ideals of the past; we are certain he shouldn't reflect the GOP of the future.

Donald Trump is not qualified to serve as president and does not deserve your vote.

kingskid · Sep 7, 2016

TLK Valentine said:
Today, because of Donald Trump, the Dallas Morning News endorsed Hillary Clinton -- the first time they've endorsed a Democrat in 75 years.

http://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/e...ommend-hillary-clinton-for-u.s.-president.ece

And, with the most recent Texas polls showing a dead heat, there's a very real possibility that Trump might be the first Republican in decades to lose Texas.

Let that sink in: Donald Trump, a "Republican," might lose Texas.

Why the quotes around Republican? Ask them:

http://beta.dallasnews.com/opinion/...ublican?_ga=1.154251640.1997348550.1470775380

The truth of the matter is no one deserves a vote this election.

bhsmte · Sep 7, 2016

kingskid said:
The truth of the matter is no one deserves a vote this election.

Something we can agree on. What infind saddening, is these are the best candidates we can come up with?

TLK Valentine · Sep 7, 2016

kingskid said:
The truth of the matter is no one deserves a vote this election.

Be that as it may, it's the topic for a more general political discussion.

As this thread focuses on Trump, I would say that the fact that he has caused Texas -- TEXAS -- to become a Republican question mark in the upcoming election is worthy of mention.

Should he manage to lose Texas, that'll be a noteworthy feat.

TLK Valentine · Sep 7, 2016

And today: Donald swings at softball questions... and whiffs.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-inadvertently-proves-clinton-right-national-security

Asked about cyber-security threats, for example, the GOP candidate replied:
“[Y]ou know cyber is becoming so big today. It’s becoming something that a number of years ago, short number of years ago, wasn’t even a word. And now the cyber is so big. And you know you look at what they’re doing with the Internet, how they’re taking and recruiting people through the Internet. And part of it is the psychology because so many people think they’re winning.”
Trump, who apparently has no idea what cyber security refers to, then transitioned to talking about a CNN poll that showed him narrowly leading among likely voters.

The Cadet · Sep 7, 2016

TLK Valentine said:
And today: Donald swings at softball questions... and whiffs.

http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/trump-inadvertently-proves-clinton-right-national-security

Seriously you'd think that running as he is as the security candidate he'd at least know the absolute fundamental basics of a security issue, right?

AirPo · Sep 7, 2016

Retired general calls Trump's 30-day ISIS order 'sophomoric'

TLK Valentine · Sep 7, 2016

AirPo said:
Retired general calls Trump's 30-day ISIS order 'sophomoric'

And remember, boys and girls -- this from the man who 1: claims to already have a plan, and 2: claims to know more about ISIS than the generals.

lesliedellow · Sep 7, 2016

TLK Valentine said:
And remember, boys and girls -- this from the man who 1: claims to already have a plan, and 2: claims to know more about ISIS than the generals.

Maga Mouth is a mega idiot. Nothing new there.

TLK Valentine · Sep 7, 2016

lesliedellow said:
Maga Mouth is a mega idiot. Nothing new there.

"Who's the more foolish: The Fool, or the fool who follows him?" -- Obi Wan Kenobi

MrSpikey · Sep 7, 2016

kingskid said:
http://thefederalist.com/2016/09/06/sorry-mark-cuban-hillary-clinton-unquestionably-guilty/

Meh.

There are many such opinions pieces online. Mr Payne's take is that "she was obviously guilty! Liar liar pants on fire! Just look, lies!", etc. based entirely on his own opinion of what he's seen and heard.

There's also this one guy, James Comey, who has reviewed all the evidence, published and unpublished, and is actually responsible for making the decision on whether a crime was committed.

The opinions above don't agree.

The opinion of one is actually relevant, and determines whether there will be a trial or not; the opinion of the other is just another voice howling in the cry of the mob.

Can you guess which is which?

kingskid · Sep 8, 2016

MrSpikey said:
Meh.

There are many such opinions pieces online. Mr Payne's take is that "she was obviously guilty! Liar liar pants on fire! Just look, lies!", etc. based entirely on his own opinion of what he's seen and heard.

There's also this one guy, James Comey, who has reviewed all the evidence, published and unpublished, and is actually responsible for making the decision on whether a crime was committed.

The opinions above don't agree.

The opinion of one is actually relevant, and determines whether there will be a trial or not; the opinion of the other is just another voice howling in the cry of the mob.

Can you guess which is which?

Comey recommended loss of security access. Yes she was negligent and her black outs, that she is admitting to, disqualifies her.

But like stated this thread is about Trump.

essentialsaltes · Sep 8, 2016

Trump's recollection of the intelligence briefing is denied by people with intelligence. I mean, people from the intelligence community.

Picky Picky · Sep 8, 2016

kingskid said:
From link. ...."The White House says it is following both the law and tradition in deciding which events are official, and thus paid for by taxpayers."

All I can say is the law and tradition is a lot like the law and tradition to which Hillary was not convicted for the same things that a normal citizen would have been convicted for.

That simply isn't true. What is the offence she should have been convicted of, and, if you are referring to the email nonsense, why did that offence not attract the necessity of proving mens rea. Or are you accusing the director of the FBI of corruption in a public office, and if so, what is your evidence?

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