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Title 8 US Code Section 1324

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What is the primary law used to prosecute individuals for bringing in, transporting, or harboring undocumented immigrants?

According to Google Gemini:

Title 8 US Code Section 1324
8 U.S. Code § 1324 is a primary federal statute used to prosecute individuals for bringing in, transporting, or harboring undocumented immigrants. It is a cornerstone of federal immigration enforcement and carries significant criminal penalties.
The law is broken down into several specific prohibited acts, generally requiring that the person acted with knowledge or reckless disregard of the individual’s illegal status.

Core Prohibitions​

According to Section 1324(a), it is a federal crime to engage in the following:
  • Alien Smuggling: Bringing (or attempting to bring) an undocumented person into the U.S. at a place other than a designated port of entry, regardless of whether they have prior authorization.
  • Domestic Transportation: Transporting or moving an undocumented person within the U.S. in furtherance of their illegal presence.
  • Harboring/Concealing: Hiding, harboring, or shielding an undocumented person from detection in any place, including a building or vehicle.
  • Encouraging or Inducing: Encouraging an undocumented person to enter or reside in the U.S. illegally.
    Note: While the Supreme Court upheld the constitutionality of this provision in United States v. Hansen (2023), it is generally interpreted to apply to specific solicitation of illegal activity rather than abstract political speech.
  • Conspiracy/Aiding and Abetting: Participating in a conspiracy to commit any of the above or helping someone else do so.

Penalties and Sentencing​

Penalties are typically applied per alien, meaning if you transport five people, you could face five separate counts.
Offense ContextMax Prison Term (per person)
Basic Violation (Harboring/Transporting)Up to 5 years
Commercial Gain (Smuggling for profit)Up to 10 years
Causing Serious Bodily InjuryUp to 20 years
Resulting in DeathLife imprisonment or Death Penalty

Key Legal Provisions​

  • Knowledge Requirement: For a conviction, prosecutors must prove you knew the person was in the U.S. illegally or acted with "reckless disregard" of that fact.
  • Seizure and Forfeiture: The government has the authority to seize any vehicle, boat, or aircraft used in the commission of these crimes, as well as any proceeds (money) gained from the activity.
  • Employment Exception: Section 1324(a)(3) specifically targets employers who knowingly hire at least 10 individuals within a 12-month period with knowledge that they were brought into the U.S. illegally. (Standard "knowingly hiring" of any number of unauthorized workers is typically handled under Section 1324a).
 

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Right.

And as long as law enforcement follows the Constitution and obeys appropriate laws, I have no problem with law enforcement strictly enforcing Title 8 US Code Section 1324.

Enforcement seems a little reckless these days...
 
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Right.

And as long as law enforcement follows the Constitution and obeys appropriate laws, I have no problem with law enforcement strictly enforcing Title 8 US Code Section 1324.

Enforcement seems a little reckless these days...
Law enforcement is not being reckless.
 
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Law enforcement is not being reckless.
Hmm. I asked ChatGPT to look it up, and it gave a diplomatic answer:

"Recent enforcement efforts under § 1324 have faced substantial judicial scrutiny, with many courts finding the government’s evidence or legal theories insufficient."
 
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What is the primary law used to prosecute individuals for bringing in, transporting, or harboring undocumented immigrants?

According to Google Gemini:

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  • Harboring/Concealing: Hiding, harboring, or shielding an undocumented person from detection in any place, including a building or vehicle.
Still not sure what the news is supposed to be, but I guess this news is relevant.

Jewish seniors are offering to hide their Haitian caregivers as Trump’s TPS end looms

“That reminds me of Anne Frank,” said the CEO of one Jewish senior residence reeling as Temporary Protected Status for Haitians is set to end.

About 500 seniors live at Sinai Residences in Boca Raton, Florida, including many Holocaust survivors. Recently, some of them asked if they could hide the building’s Haitian staff in their apartments.

[Ba]rring any 11th-hour changes, about 350,000 Haitians will lose their status on Tuesday — ending their right to live and work in the United States legally and putting them at risk of immediate detention and deportation.

At Sinai Residences, for example, 9% of staff members are Haitians with TPS, and they won’t be able to work after Tuesday. (In total, 69% of the center’s staff are foreign-born; caregiving industries are heavily dependent on immigrant workers.)

“The Jewish community employs these populations to care for the most vulnerable among us. And it creates major challenges,” said Reuben Rotman, president and CEO of the Network of Jewish Human Services Agencies. Many Jewish social services agencies also serve immigrants as clients, he noted: “This is part of our Jewish identity and ethos, to serve our full community with Jewish values and welcoming the stranger. So this is all connected.”

Back at Sinai, residents aren’t waiting for careful plans to be laid. Every worker soon to lose their status is receiving “$2,000 and a hug” from the center; many residents are contributing more out of their own pockets.
 
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Thread patrol?
The (articles required) rule went in after a spate of argumentitum via youtubia, which were entire threads of videos…back a while now, maybe a decade?
 
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