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<blockquote data-quote="Sir Joseph" data-source="post: 76711582" data-attributes="member: 414771"><p>Tellyontellyon, people have been citing 2 Peter 3:8 for many years in order to reconcile Genesis with evolutionary theory, and to use this passage to time Christ's return is equally unfounded. The scripture's context is concerning God's patience in not wanting anyone to perish, and that his coming is assured no matter how long it seems that everything goes on as normal. It has nothing to do with creation or pinning down a specific date for end times events.</p><p> </p><p>Jesus made it clear that no one knows the day or hour of his return, and those false prophets of the past who set dates, with Jehovah's Witnesses leading the pack, should demonstrate the foolishness of trying to do so. Having said that, I do believe that current geopolitical events are lining up well with the prophesies of Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, and John. And with population growth, technology advancement, and cultural depravity all increasing so fast, it seems reasonable that the end times are near - as in decades perhaps; not centuries or milleniums. That's a perception and feeling though, not a calculated prediction.</p><p> </p><p>With 2.3 billion people in the world professing Christianity today, the number is higher than it's ever been in (recorded) history - with Islam growing at a faster rate, but Christianity growing larger by number. As a Bible believing Christian, I have no doubt that Christianity will continue to exist through the last days and Christ's final return. However, the actual number of true Christians is certainly much lower than the statistics indicate, since the numbers represent what people attribute themselves to versus what they actually are. For example, both Christians and Catholics will often label themselves as such because they were raised in that environment, but not actually have a saving relationship with Jesus. The Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, and other cult religions are also generally counted as Christian, though they certainly are not. In any case, Christianity is here to stay, but it's shifting geographically. Developed nations are seeing declining numbers while developing nations are seeing increasing numbers. Interestingly, China will soon have more Christians than any other nation.</p><p></p><p>As for the watering down or liberalizing of Christianity, I've seen that occur in the U.S. over the past 50 years as the nation has traded its Christian heritage for secular beliefs and values. It started with a series of Supreme Court decisions that have systematically taken God out of the public arena, replaced creationism with evolutionary teaching, and degraded the country's moral values. Thus, we now have a majority of Americans today professing to be Christian while openly rejecting the faith's foundations based upon the Bible. It's a sad state of affairs, but fortunately the truth of Christianity doesn't rest upon the actions or beliefs of misguided people.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Sir Joseph, post: 76711582, member: 414771"] Tellyontellyon, people have been citing 2 Peter 3:8 for many years in order to reconcile Genesis with evolutionary theory, and to use this passage to time Christ's return is equally unfounded. The scripture's context is concerning God's patience in not wanting anyone to perish, and that his coming is assured no matter how long it seems that everything goes on as normal. It has nothing to do with creation or pinning down a specific date for end times events. Jesus made it clear that no one knows the day or hour of his return, and those false prophets of the past who set dates, with Jehovah's Witnesses leading the pack, should demonstrate the foolishness of trying to do so. Having said that, I do believe that current geopolitical events are lining up well with the prophesies of Daniel, Ezekiel, Jeremiah, and John. And with population growth, technology advancement, and cultural depravity all increasing so fast, it seems reasonable that the end times are near - as in decades perhaps; not centuries or milleniums. That's a perception and feeling though, not a calculated prediction. With 2.3 billion people in the world professing Christianity today, the number is higher than it's ever been in (recorded) history - with Islam growing at a faster rate, but Christianity growing larger by number. As a Bible believing Christian, I have no doubt that Christianity will continue to exist through the last days and Christ's final return. However, the actual number of true Christians is certainly much lower than the statistics indicate, since the numbers represent what people attribute themselves to versus what they actually are. For example, both Christians and Catholics will often label themselves as such because they were raised in that environment, but not actually have a saving relationship with Jesus. The Mormons, Jehovah Witnesses, and other cult religions are also generally counted as Christian, though they certainly are not. In any case, Christianity is here to stay, but it's shifting geographically. Developed nations are seeing declining numbers while developing nations are seeing increasing numbers. Interestingly, China will soon have more Christians than any other nation. As for the watering down or liberalizing of Christianity, I've seen that occur in the U.S. over the past 50 years as the nation has traded its Christian heritage for secular beliefs and values. It started with a series of Supreme Court decisions that have systematically taken God out of the public arena, replaced creationism with evolutionary teaching, and degraded the country's moral values. Thus, we now have a majority of Americans today professing to be Christian while openly rejecting the faith's foundations based upon the Bible. It's a sad state of affairs, but fortunately the truth of Christianity doesn't rest upon the actions or beliefs of misguided people. [/QUOTE]
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