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<blockquote data-quote="SelfSim" data-source="post: 74115038" data-attributes="member: 354922"><p>There is never a need (or demonstration from me) for anything <em>other</em> than honesty. The case I present here is quite complete .. it is not my case .. it is science's case.</p><p></p><p>Also: ok then (seventh time): Time is defined by its measurement: time is what a clock reads. That's what '<em>time IS</em>'.</p><p>I see nothing in any of these references that changes anything I've demonstrated or how science (Physics) realises time:</p><p></p><p>So, for the eighth time: Time in physics is defined by its measurement: time is what a clock reads.</p><p></p><p>Time in science is a fundamental dimensional property which is also applied in describing the universe.</p><p></p><p>Time is not measured in millions of miles .. a clock does not measure in 'miles' .. a clock counts in consistent units of time (eg: seconds).</p><p></p><p> .. of course not .. that's why science <em>tests</em> these things.</p><p>Nope. (It seems that's what you're demanding though).</p><p>Science has no need for 'proofs'. Mathematics uses proofs though. Math is not science. Math is based on logic. Logic is not science. Science is defined by its process. Logic follows a completely different process. Logic posits the existence of 'truths', which is untestable in science. So truths can be ignored as science proceeds with its process of objective testing.</p><p></p><p>The measurement of time <em><u>is</u></em> its test. The results are observed and documented .. that is the scientific process and time tests out well. Time is thus objectively real. That's all there is to it in science.</p><p></p><p>Define what you mean by <em>'the time there'</em> .. please explain.</p><p></p><p>There is never a need (or demonstration from me) for anything <em>other</em> than honesty. The case I present here is quite complete .. it is not my case .. it is science's case.</p><p>Time is defined as a scalar quantity .. it is a defined as being a dimension of spacetime. Spacetime is defined as being a property of the universe. Time is thus universal. Time can be measured anywhere that enters our perceptions. Observations are recorded perceptions which include a timestamp. Remote observations of the universe thus also include a timestamp.</p><p></p><p>I don't have a clue about what you're talking about. Please explain.</p><p></p><p>Time is not included in an area. Area is based on spatial dimensionality. Time is its own dimensionality. The three spatial dimesions (x,y,z) are separate from the time dimension (t).</p><p>It is not useful to conflate dimensions.</p><p></p><p>The concept of spacetime is fundamental to GR and SR. Testing of GR and SR demonstrates the utility of spacetime.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="SelfSim, post: 74115038, member: 354922"] There is never a need (or demonstration from me) for anything [I]other[/I] than honesty. The case I present here is quite complete .. it is not my case .. it is science's case. Also: ok then (seventh time): Time is defined by its measurement: time is what a clock reads. That's what '[I]time IS[/I]'. I see nothing in any of these references that changes anything I've demonstrated or how science (Physics) realises time: So, for the eighth time: Time in physics is defined by its measurement: time is what a clock reads. Time in science is a fundamental dimensional property which is also applied in describing the universe. Time is not measured in millions of miles .. a clock does not measure in 'miles' .. a clock counts in consistent units of time (eg: seconds). .. of course not .. that's why science [I]tests[/I] these things. Nope. (It seems that's what you're demanding though). Science has no need for 'proofs'. Mathematics uses proofs though. Math is not science. Math is based on logic. Logic is not science. Science is defined by its process. Logic follows a completely different process. Logic posits the existence of 'truths', which is untestable in science. So truths can be ignored as science proceeds with its process of objective testing. The measurement of time [I][U]is[/U][/I] its test. The results are observed and documented .. that is the scientific process and time tests out well. Time is thus objectively real. That's all there is to it in science. Define what you mean by [I]'the time there'[/I] .. please explain. There is never a need (or demonstration from me) for anything [I]other[/I] than honesty. The case I present here is quite complete .. it is not my case .. it is science's case. Time is defined as a scalar quantity .. it is a defined as being a dimension of spacetime. Spacetime is defined as being a property of the universe. Time is thus universal. Time can be measured anywhere that enters our perceptions. Observations are recorded perceptions which include a timestamp. Remote observations of the universe thus also include a timestamp. I don't have a clue about what you're talking about. Please explain. Time is not included in an area. Area is based on spatial dimensionality. Time is its own dimensionality. The three spatial dimesions (x,y,z) are separate from the time dimension (t). It is not useful to conflate dimensions. The concept of spacetime is fundamental to GR and SR. Testing of GR and SR demonstrates the utility of spacetime. [/QUOTE]
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