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This is becoming confusing...You mean like labeling someone as a racist and then discriminating against them or harassing them based on the label you applied to them?
Not if the laws being advocated by some for the legalization against hate speech are put in place. Calling someone a racist is being judgemental and unkind. Plus, attacking people with that kind of label shouldn't be done, should it? Do you think people should be attacked?This is becoming confusing...
If someone says or does something that you consider to be racist, shouold you be allowed to call them out on that?
I'm not talking about the laws. It was a genuine question about what you think. The matter has become confused. I'm looking for some clarity. This is not a gotcha. I want to know what your position is. If someone says or does something that you consider to be racist, should you be allowed to call them out on that?Not if the laws being advocated by some for the legalization against hate speech are put in place. Calling someone a racist is being judgemental and unkind. Plus, attacking people with that kind of label shouldn't be done, should it? Do you think people should be attacked?
Depends on what you mean by "call them out". If you're referring to the idea of simply having a discussion with the person because you believe they are saying something that is racist, then sure. But if you mean simply responding to people you don't agree with by saying "you're a racist", and then telling them that if they deny that they are racist, then it is proof they are racist, then that's not helpful at all. That sort of thing is only meant to end a discussion and silence people you don't agree with.I'm not talking about the laws. It was a genuine question about what you think. The matter has become confused. I'm looking for some clarity. This is not a gotcha. I want to know what your position is. If someone says or does something that you consider to be racist, should you be allowed to call them out on that?
So you wouldn't want someone to suggest that you should be charged for accusing someone of being racist. That's all I wanted to know.Depends on what you mean by "call them out". If you're referring to the idea of simply having a discussion with the person because you believe they are saying something that is racist, then sure. But if you mean simply responding to people you don't agree with by saying "you're a racist", and then telling them that if they deny that they are racist, then it is proof they are racist, then that's not helpful at all. That sort of thing is only meant to end a discussion and silence people you don't agree with.
So your question wasn't quite as genuine as you claimed it was.So you wouldn't want someone to suggest that you should be charged for accusing someone of being racist. That's all I wanted to know.
It really wasn't a gotcha. I tried to word it as accurately as I could. You gave a reasonable answer. Don't be so paranoid...So your question wasn't quite as genuine as you claimed it was.
And then you responded by claiming I said something I didn't.It really wasn't a gotcha. I tried to word it as accurately as I could. You gave a reasonable answer. Don't be so paranoid...
When I asked if you thought you could be allowed to say something, I wasn't talking about you mum allowing you to say it. I was obviously talking about a legal restriction. It was an honest question. Treat as you will.And then you responded by claiming I said something I didn't.
What does protected classes have to do with causing harm to a person?I do. But what does that have to do with US federal protections for all individuals from certain forms of discrimination or harassment?
Just don’t say racist things. It’s easy. The best piece of advice I ever got growing up was “no matter how much you want to don’t ever do a murder or say something racist; you can’t put that genie back it the bottle”.One thing "they" have learned is that once someone labels them as a racist, there's no convincing their accuser otherwise. Your post is an example.
Not at all. It’s two hen voting and a fox voting on what’s for dinner. As in society today there are fewer racists in the equation.So you think whether someone can speak freely or not is dependent on how others vote?
Sounds like 2 foxes and a hen voting on what's for Dinner.
Exactly! The would be facing legal consequences like any other law breaker.You mean like labeling someone as a racist and then discriminating against them or harassing them based on the label you applied to them?
Well yes. They are law breakers and need to be punished. Just like those no good dope smokers; they broke the law and society needs to be protected from them.Do you think people should be attacked?
I’m sorry I really can’t believe you can’t see that using hate speech aimed at a protected class breaks the law.What does protected classes have to do with causing harm to a person?
The problem is that many liberals define any speech that doesn’t agree with them as misinformation therefore silence the political opposition and problem solved.Only the people engaging in legally defined hate speech and lies get silenced.
Why do you want to be able to engage in hate speech and lies? I just don’t get why you stan for hate speech and lies?
Hate speech is legally defined so you can't just label something as hate speech anymore than you can just label something communism.The problem is that many liberals define any speech that doesn’t agree with them as misinformation therefore silence the political opposition and problem solved.
Note I referred to misinformation you referred to to hate speech, two entirely different things. Yes I do recognize communism when it rears its ugly head.Hate speech is legally defined so you can't just label something as hate speech anymore than you can just label something communism.
Lies are legally defined so you can't just label something as lies anymore than you can just label something communism.Note I referred to misinformation you referred to to hate speech, two entirely different things. Yes I do recognize communism when it rears its ugly head.
Kamala’s proposed price controls are communistic! See how easy that was! Untruths are lies and Walz absolutely lied about his military service. We thank him for his service and call him out for lies about that service.Lies are legally defined so you can't just label something as lies anymore than you can just label something communism.
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