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Three More Bishops Ban Pelosi from Receiving Communion

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There are a number of Catholic Senators and Congress people promoting Abortion along with Joe Biden - how do they then selectively single out Pelosi? Wouldn't this be an across-the-board ban for all pro-abortion catholic legislators in both houses of congress and also the presidency?

I am a bit confused as to how this is viewed within the American Catholic church and by American Catholic Bishops - as well as how it is viewed by the Pope.
 
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There are a number of Catholic Senators and Congress people promoting Abortion along with Joe Biden - how do they then selectively single out Pelosi? Wouldn't this be an across-the-board ban for all pro-abortion catholic legislators in both houses of congress and also the presidency?

I am a bit confused as to how this is viewed within the American Catholic church and by American Catholic Bishops - as well as how it is viewed by the Pope.
It might be better to consider this as a start to something more general. Of course not only Nancy Pelosi but all pro-abortion politicians and public figures should be barred from communion. Joe Biden is especially egregious in his anti-Christian pro-abortion position.

What prohibits it is perhaps the issue of diocese and jurisdictions within the Catholic Church. I see it as a good sign, of clergy willing to have a spine and not be paralyzed by the threat of political power used against them.
 
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There are a number of Catholic Senators and Congress people promoting Abortion along with Joe Biden - how do they then selectively single out Pelosi? Wouldn't this be an across-the-board ban for all pro-abortion catholic legislators in both houses of congress and also the presidency?

I am a bit confused as to how this is viewed within the American Catholic church and by American Catholic Bishops - as well as how it is viewed by the Pope.
There is no "American Catholic Church," as to "they," each bishop of the Catholic Church who runs a diocese or archdiocese is responsible for those who reside in his area. The main responsibility of a bishop is teaching the Word of God. Pelosi is one of the most if not the most extreme politician in the U.S. in regard to publicly making statements against Christ's teachings and against His Church while promoting herself as a devout Catholic. I'm thinking of an analogy, a teacher is responsible for a classroom, at what point does she or he single a child out for disruption, etc. and at what point does she take various measures? The initial step is to communicate with the student, identify problems, and correct them.
 
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Does she go to 4 different Catholic churched? Why are all these bishops publicly stated this, besides political and trying to blackmail her into stopping women to safe abortions and BC. BTW, I don't believe most people should be receiving communion.
 
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Does she go to 4 different Catholic churched? Why are all these bishops publicly stated this, besides political and trying to blackmail her into stopping women to safe abortions and BC. BTW, I don't believe most people should be receiving communion.
There is no safe abortion--someone always dies. Ms. Pelosi has spoken out against the teachings of Jesus, putting her own personal views above His. There is no blackmail, as spiritual shepherds it is their duty to instruct.
 
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There is no safe abortion--someone always dies.
The women doesn't die, She is someone. The clump of cells isn't.

Ms. Pelosi has spoken out against the teachings of Jesus, putting her own personal views above His. There is no blackmail, as spiritual shepherds it is their duty to instruct.
Ms. Pelosi has no right stopping women's rights to have a safe abortion, And BC. And neither should your church or you. Yes, her church is playing game, that's none of their business.
 
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The women doesn't die, She is someone. The clump of cells isn't.

Ms. Pelosi has no right stopping women's rights to have a safe abortion, And BC. And neither should your church or you. Yes, her church is playing game, that's none of their business.

What do you mean it's none of their business? Are Catholics and other Christians broadly supposed to be acquiescent to the consciences of others? You might think a child in the womb at any stage is a clump of cells who can be aborted for any reason like Mrs. Pelosi thinks, but not all of us think that way.

Either way, Nancy Pelosi should stop claiming to be a faithful Catholic. She openly and proudly rejects many core Catholic teachings in her position as a Democratic senator. Her belief in the party platform of the Democratic party supersedes her Catholicism at every conflict between the two.
 
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What do you mean it's none of their business? Are Catholics and other Christians broadly supposed to be acquiescent to the consciences of others?
If I abort it's non of your business.
You might think a child in the womb at any stage is a clump of cells who can be aborted for any reason
Yes ,none of your business.
like Mrs. Pelosi thinks, but not all of us think that way.
Then don't cause an abortion or get an abortion.

Either way, Nancy Pelosi should stop claiming to be a faithful Catholic. She openly and proudly rejects many core Catholic teachings in her position as a Democratic senator. Her belief in the party platform of the Democratic party supersedes her Catholicism at every conflict between the two.
Her job isn't to please her religion. Her job is to protect women's right. Personally if I was her , I would stop being Catholic or Christian or any religion. BTW, I know more religious people that had abortions than not.
 
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If I abort it's non of your business. Yes ,none of your business. Then don't cause an abortion or get an abortion.

Her job isn't to please her religion. Her job is to protect women's right. Personally if I was her , I would stop being Catholic or Christian or any religion. BTW, I know more religious people that had abortions than not.

I don't have to tolerate your decision to get an abortion. If you want to kill a child, I don't have to tolerate that or concede your worldview. Christianity is the primary thing which motivates my reasoning here and you can reject that and advocate unlimited freedom to abortion. But I and other Christians will oppose that. If we live in a society where we can affect each other and if you will not allow states or localities to have the freedom to reject abortion, then there is no other solution. Conflict over this issue can only continue, so don't pretend you or your non-Christian worldview are special.

As far as Nancy Pelosi's Job is concerned. I agree she's not supposed to be a Catholic. She's supposed to be a Democrat. For her, religion is a secondary and unimportant aspect of life which should be shelved it the interest of people like you. If only she would stop pretending to be a faithful Catholic and stop presenting herself as such she wouldn't be receiving the sort of criticism she does. But she persistently does this. The Church, if it means anything, cannot stand by and let that happen without consequence. To do so is to subordinate yourself to that person and their interests. For Christianity to be apolitical, let politicians do whatever they want is to cease to have stakes in public life. You might want that, but Christians don't and should never desire that outcome.

I'm glad you agree with me, Nancy Pelosi should abandon Christianity because she cannot advocate in it's interests without conflicting with her Democratic political ideology. She agrees with you, American secularism is more ideal in public life than religion on all matters. For Nancy the calculation is simple Democratic party > Catholicism. Christianity must be subordinated to the state in all avenues. Forgive me if I or others don't like that prospect.

If the Church is to do nothing, it is to surrender it's place to the Democratic party's will. To those who do not have it's interests in mind and would seek to change it to their alignment. Christians have a right to advocate for their interests, even if you despise those interests (which you clearly do).
 
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Well, all Speaker Pelosi needs is one Catholic clergyman willing to overlook politics and minister to her... Fortunately they don't seem to be in short supply.

With her wealth, she could even afford semi regular trips to the Vatican for an audience with Francis, if need be.
 
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