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Lately, I have been dealing with some things. I have been having a hard time controlling my thoughts. To be honest, for the last 15 years I have struggled with an addiction to pornography. Recently, I have taken a stand for God & got rid of all that junk that was destroying my life. Though, these thoughts were there before getting rid of the pornography. But, not as strong. I know the Devil is trying to pull me back to him, but I am a child of the living God, bought with a price by the Blood of Jesus.

I just need someone to talk to, some advice on how to regain Control. Thanks in advanced.
 

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Hi bigdAddyweAve423 ,

Suggest spending the time once used on porn , on studying Scripture , and sharing God's Good News with others , as He Reveals Himself in Greater Measure through His Word , and The Cleansing Power thereof !


Also , there's a section of this forum specifically for this struggle .

To check it out , you can click on link below , or find it listed under " recovery " category on home page .


http://www.christianforums.com/f214-pornography-addiction-support.html


May The Lord Be Pleased To Help , Preserve , and Deliver us from all evil . In Jesus Name . Amen .

wm
 
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Have you talked to your pastor? Or maybe is there a counsellor in your church?

Everytime a bad or possibly sinful thought enters my mind, I find it very helpful to either start singing a hymn, or to recite a bible verse. Try memorizing Romans 6... just keep adding verses until you have the whole chapter memorized. Then whenever your thoughts begin to stray, you can just recite, out loud or in your head, that chapter. The word of God is a weapon against the devil and his evil.

Good luck and God bless! :)
 
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caireann said:
Have you talked to your pastor? Or maybe is there a counsellor in your church?

Everytime a bad or possibly sinful thought enters my mind, I find it very helpful to either start singing a hymn, or to recite a bible verse. Try memorizing Romans 6... just keep adding verses until you have the whole chapter memorized. Then whenever your thoughts begin to stray, you can just recite, out loud or in your head, that chapter. The word of God is a weapon against the devil and his evil.

Good luck and God bless! :)

I actually havent been to church in a long time. With my work scheduled I havent been able to make it. I do download teaches from a website, that I listen to everyday. Also, I am in the word just about everyday.

I have been rebuking the devil everytime a thought creeps its way in & reciting the scripture that I know. The issue is, these thoughts give me a deep seated fear in the pit of my stomach. They scare me to death sometimes.
 
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caireann said:
I would suggest finding a Christian in a postion of authority that you trust. And have them pray for you and over you. Prayer is much more powerful in groups. I will pray for you as well. :hug:
I also should say that by natural I am a worrier.

I know I need prayer, Thanks for your prayers & advice.
 
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Ar e you trying to become asexual in some way. That won't work. Our human sexuality gives rise to sexual thoughts and feelings. It is what we do with them that matters.

To have some natural interest in sex is fine. It is the association with porn that you have developed in previous years that will seek to draw you back into it. Although the devil will use that, there is a lot there that is just learned behaviour and memories.

Marriage brings familiarity. Men can seek the added stimulus of new sexual images in an attempt to obtain something new. Sometimes men have not leared to share themselves through sex and it so it becomes all about self gratification. Porn feeds on that too.

Can you and your wife talk about sex freely, and discuss each other's feelings, satisfactions etc? Is she finding pleasure and satisfaction sexually with you?

Discipline and self control are necessary, but underlying issues are best looked at too. The desired outcome should be not a constant battle but finding porn uninteresting and unnecessary. That is the freedom that Jesus wants to give you.

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Johnnz said:
Ar e you trying to become asexual in some way. That won't work. Our human sexuality gives rise to sexual thoughts and feelings. It is what we do with them that matters.

To have some natural interest in sex is fine. It is the association with porn that you have developed in previous years that will seek to draw you back into it. Although the devil will use that, there is a lot there that is just learned behaviour and memories.

Marriage brings familiarity. Men can seek the added stimulus of new sexual images in an attempt to obtain something new. Sometimes men have not leared to share themselves through sex and it so it becomes all about self gratification. Porn feeds on that too.

Can you and your wife talk about sex freely, and discuss each other's feelings, satisfactions etc? Is she finding pleasure and satisfaction sexually with you?

Discipline and self control are necessary, but underlying issues are best looked at too. The desired outcome should be not a constant battle but finding porn uninteresting and unnecessary. That is the freedom that Jesus wants to give you.

John
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I am not sure waht you mean by asexual.

I know that sexual feeling & thoughts are natural. I have been getting some sexual thoughts, but mostly not releated to porn. It is, to be honest, Images with other people & i dont want that. Maybe that is the same thing??

My wife is open about our sexual relation, she knows about the porn & is helping me stay away.

I feel ashamed about the images in my head & want them out. I am scared & need prayer. I know this will take time, cause it was over time that things got this way. I really feels good to talk to someone/people who understand & can offer advice from a Godly perspective.
 
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bigdAddyweAve423 said:
Lately, I have been dealing with some things. I have been having a hard time controlling my thoughts. To be honest, for the last 15 years I have struggled with an addiction to pornography. Recently, I have taken a stand for God & got rid of all that junk that was destroying my life. Though, these thoughts were there before getting rid of the pornography. But, not as strong. I know the Devil is trying to pull me back to him, but I am a child of the living God, bought with a price by the Blood of Jesus.

I just need someone to talk to, some advice on how to regain Control. Thanks in advanced.
here are God's weapons with which you should arm yourself. Mind/attitude/purpose of Christ, 1st Peter 4 and the whole armor of Ephesians 6. These are spiritual/paradoxical/ concerned with the obedience of Christ and are implemented by the Holy Spirit. They are not of one's own resources, understanding, of the flesh or of religious rules. 1st Timothy 2:24. Fighting with God's weapons will transform you. I am going to post a already prepared series on the spiritual armor on this site. Study it for understanding.
 
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SPIRITUAL WARFARE
Today, we begin a series of lessons showing the connection between man’s body, soul and spirit and living the Christian life. (Sanctification)
Man is most often tempted through the physical body. How should a Christian resist temptations? Against whom or what is our battle? What are the modes and means of our temptations? These and other questions will be answered through this series.

We begin with Ephesians 6:12-13a; For our battle is not against flesh and blood, but against the rulers, against the authorities, against the world powers of this darkness, against the spiritual forces of evil in the heavens. This is why you must take up the full armor of God. (HCSB)

The next issue will discuss the first part of this armor but let me give you a few cautions. Putting on the armor of God is often misunderstood and wrongly applied. Study carefully each lesson with prayer and individual Bible Study. Obey what God teaches you from His Word. You will be the winner.
 
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THE BIBLICAL SCHOLAR

Galatians 2:20; I have been crucified with Christ; IT IS NO LONGER I WHO LIVES, BUT CHRIST LIVES IN ME; AND THE LIFE I NOW LIVE IN THE FLESH I LIVE BY FAITH IN THE SON OF GOD, WHO LOVED ME AND GAVE HIMSELF FOR ME.




Eph 6:14 Be ready! Let the truth be like a belt around your waist begins our analysis of the armor Christians should put on. Question-Does praying daily mean you have put on the armor? The answer is no. What are the deeper meanings of putting on the belt of truth?
Truth or sincerity is our girdle, Eph_6:14. It was prophesied of Christ (Isa_11:5) that righteousness should be the girdle of his loins and faithfulness the girdle of his reins. That which Christ was girded with all Christians must be girded with. God desires truth, that is, sincerity, in the inward parts. This is the strength of our loins; and it girds on all other pieces of our armour, and therefore is first mentioned. I know no religion without sincerity. Some understand it of the doctrine of the truths of the gospel: they should cleave to us as the girdle does to the loins, Jer_13:11. This will restrain from libertinism and licentiousness, as a girdle restrains and keeps in the body. This is the Christian soldier's belt: ungirded with this, he is unblessed. Matthew Henry

Eph 6:14 - Having your loins girt about - That ye may be ready for every motion. With truth - Not only with the truths of the gospel, but with "truth in the inward parts;" for without this all our knowledge of divine truth will prove but a poor girdle "in the evil day." So our Lord is described, Isa_11:5. And as a girded man is always ready to go on, so this seems to intimate an obedient heart, a ready will. Our Lord adds to the loins girded, the lights burning, Luk_12:35; showing that watching and ready obedience are the inseparable companions of faith and love. Wesley
Next week, we study the breastplate of righteousness. Meanwhile, put on the girdle of truth God’s way. Continue or begin doing your own extensive study of God’s Armor.

 
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This issue of GOD’S GOOD NEWS informs us about the breastplate of righteousness.

Eph. 6:14b and2532 having on1746 the3588 breastplate2382 of righteousness;1343

the breastplate: The θωραξ [Strong’s G2382], or breastplate, consisted of two parts; one of which covered the whole region of the thorax or breast, and the other the back, as far down as the front part extended.

Righteousness must be our breast-plate. The breast-plate secures the vitals, shelters the heart. The righteousness of Christ imputed to us is our breast-plate against the arrows of divine wrath. The righteousness of Christ implanted in us is our breast-plate to fortify the heart against the attacks which Satan makes against us. The apostle explains this in 1Th_5:8, Putting on the breast-plate of faith and love. Faith and love include all Christian graces; for by faith we are united to Christ and by love to our brethren. These will infer a diligent observance of our duty to God, and a righteous deportment towards men, in all the offices of justice, truth, and charity. (Henry)

And having on the breastplate of righteousness - The righteousness of a spotless purity, in which Christ will present us faultless before God, through the merit of his own blood. With this breastplate our Lord is described, Isa_59:17. In the breast is the seat of conscience, which is guarded by righteousness. No armour for the back is mentioned. We are always to face our enemies. (Wesley)

and having on the breastplate of righteousness; in allusion to Isa_59:17, meaning not works of righteousness done by men, though these are a fence when rightly used against the reproaches and charges of the enemy, as they were by Samuel, 1Sa_12:3, but rather the graces of faith and love, 1Th_5:8, though faith has another place in the Christian armour, afterwards mentioned; wherefore it seems best to understand this of the righteousness of Christ, which being imputed by God, and received by faith, is a guard against, and repels the accusations and charges of Satan, and is a security from all wrath and condemnation. (Gill)

Nest week, we study the footwear of the Christian soldier. Continue or begin to do your own personal studies of Christian Armor.
 
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Eph 6:15 And2532 your feet4228 shod5265 with1722 the preparation2091 of the3588 gospel2098 of peace;1515

Eph 6:15 -
Having shod (hupodēsamenoi). “Having bound under” (sandals). First aorist middle participle of hupodeō, old word, to bind under (Mar_6:9; Act_12:8, only other N.T. example).
With the preparation (en hetoimasiāi). Late word from hetoimazō, to make ready, only here in N.T. Readiness of mind that comes from the gospel whose message is peace. (Robertson’s Word Pictures)

Eph 6:15 -
Your feet shod - The κνημιδες, or greaves, have been already described; they were deemed of essential importance in the ancient armor; if the feet or legs are materially wounded, a man can neither stand to resist his foe, pursue him if vanquished, nor flee from him should he have the worst of the fight.
That the apostle has obedience to the Gospel in general in view, there can be no doubt; but he appears to have more than this, a readiness to publish the Gospel: for, How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of him that bringeth good tidings, that publisheth Peace; that bringeth good tidings of good, that publisheth salvation; that saith unto Zion, Thy God reigneth! Isa_52:7; Rom_10:15.
The Israelites were commanded to eat the passover with their feet shod, to show that they were ready for their journey. And our Lord commands his disciples to be shod with sandals, that they might be ready to go and publish the Gospel, as the Israelites were to go to possess the promised land. Every Christian should consider himself on his journey from a strange land to his own country, and not only stand every moment prepared to proceed, but be every moment in actual progress towards his home.
The preparation of the Gospel - The word ἑτοιμασια which we translate preparation, is variously understood: some think it means an habitual readiness in walking in the way prescribed by the Gospel; others that firmness and solidity which the Gospel gives to them who conscientiously believe its doctrines; others, those virtues and graces which in the first planting of Christianity were indispensably necessary to those who published it.
Should we take the word preparation in its common acceptation, it may imply that, by a conscientious belief of the Gospel, receiving the salvation provided by its author, and walking in the way of obedience which is pointed out by it, the soul is prepared for the kingdom of heaven.
The Gospel is termed the Gospel of peace, because it establishes peace between God and man, and proclaims peace and good will to the universe. Contentions, strife, quarrels, and all wars, being as alien from its nature and design, as they are opposed to the nature of Him who is love and compassion to man. ( Adam Clark’s Commentary On The Bible)

The Shield Of Faith will be next week’s topic on “God’s Good News”. You should now be seeing the rich depth’s of The Christian Armor. Continue to do your own study on this topic. You will be the beneficiary if you become clothed with the fullness of its purpose.
 
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This issue of God’s Good News will study the deeper meanings of taking up the shield of faith. Eph 6:16 Above1909 all,3956 taking353 the3588 shield2375 of faith,4102 wherewith1722, 3739 ye shall be able1410 to quench4570 all3956 the3588 fiery4448 darts956 of the3588 wicked.4190

The numbers after each word is a location in Strong’s Concordance of the Bible with the original meaning and language of that word.

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Above all - Ἐν πᾶσιν En pasin. Not “above all” in point of importance or value, but “over” all, as a soldier holds his shield to defend himself. It constitutes a protection over every part of his body, as it can be turned in every direction. The idea is, that as the shield covered or protected the other parts of the armor, so faith had a similar importance in the Christian virtues.
The shield - note, Isa_21:9. The shield was usually made of light wood. or a rim of brass, and covered with several folds or thicknesses of stout hide, which was preserved by frequent anointing. It was held by the left arm, and was secured by straps, through which the arm passed, as may be seen in the annexed figures. The outer surface of the shield was made more or less rounding. Item the center to the edge, and was polished smooth, or anointed with oil, so that arrows or darts would glance off, or rebound.
Of faith - On the nature of faith, see the notes on Mar_16:16. Faith here is made to occupy a more important place than either of the other Christian graces. It bears, to the whole Christian character, the same relation which the shield does to the other parts of the armor of a soldier. It protects all, and is indispensable to the security of all, as is the case with the shield. The shield was an ingenious device by which blows and arrows might be parried off, and the whole body defended. It could be made to protect the head, or the heart, or thrown behind to meet all attack there. As long as the soldier had his shield, he felt secure; and as long as a Christian has faith, he is safe. It comes to his aid in every attack that is made on him, no matter from what quarter; it is the defense and guardian of every other Christian grace; and it secures the protection which the Christian needs in the whole of the spiritual war.
Wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the wicked - Or, rather, “of the wicked one” - τοῦ πονηροῦ tou ponērou. The allusion is undoubtedly to the great enemy of the people of God, called, by way of eminence, the “wicked one;” compare 2Th_3:3. Mr. Locke renders this, “Wherein you may receive, and so render ineffectual,” etc. There seems a little incongruity in the idea of “quenching” darts by “a shield.” But the word “quench,” here, means only that they would be “put out” by being thrown “against” the shield, as a candle would by being thrown against anything. “The fiery darts” that were used in war were small, slender pieces of cane, which were filled with combustible materials, and set on fire; or darts around which some combustible material was wound, and which were set on fire, and then shot “slowly” against a foe. The object was to make the arrow fasten in the body, and increase the danger by the burning; or, more frequently, those darts were thrown against ships, forts, tents, etc., with an intention to set them on fire. They were in common use among the ancients. Arrian (Exped. Alexan. 11) mentions the πυρφορα βελη purphora belē, the fire-bearing weapons; Thucydides (ii. c. 75), the πυρφοροι ὀΐστοι purphoroi oistoi, the fire-bearing arrows; and Livy refers to similar weapons as in common use in war; lib. xxi. c. 8. By the “fiery darts of the wicked,” Paul here refers, probably, to the temptations of the great adversary, which are like fiery darts; or those furious suggestions of evil, and excitements to sin, which he may throw into the mind like fiery darts. They are - blasphemous thoughts, unbelief, sudden temptation to do wrong, or thoughts that wound and torment the soul. In regard to them, we may observe:
(1) that they come suddenly, like arrows sped from a bow;
(2) they come from unexpected quarters, like arrows shot suddenly from an enemy in ambush;
(3) they pierce, and penetrate, and torment the soul, as arrows would that are on fire;
(4) they set the soul on fire, and enkindle the worst passions, as fiery darts do a ship or camp against which they are sent.
The only way to meet them is by the “shield of faith;” by confidence in God, and by relying on his gracious promises and aid. It is not by our own strength; and, if we have not faith in God, we are wholly defenseless. We should have a shield that we can turn in any direction, on which we may receive the arrow, and by which it may be put out. (Barns)

The next issue will study the helmet of salvation. The week after the last piece of spiritual armor is studied, a list of every attribute derived from correctly clothing yourself in spiritual armor will be published. Pray for us as we travel to Tampa Thursday morning and return Sunday evening. The prayer requests will not be published till next week unless I receive it by tomorrow night. We won’t be at small group tomorrow due to our early flight Thursday on flight # 1797 and return Sunday on flight # 618. Both are Delta flights.
 
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Eph 6:17 And2532 take1209 the3588 helmet4030 of salvation,

[5.] Salvation must be our helmet (Eph_6:17); that is, hope, which has salvation for its object; so 1Th_5:8. The helmet secures the head. A good hope of salvation, well founded and well built, will both purify the soul and keep it from being defiled by Satan, and it will comfort the soul and keep it from being troubled and tormented by Satan. He would tempt us to despair; but good hope keeps us trusting in God, and rejoicing in him. Henry)

Of salvation - That is, “of the hope of salvation;” for so it is expressed in the parallel place in 1Th_5:8. The idea is, that a well-founded hope of salvation will preserve us in the day of spiritual conflict, and will guard us from the blows which an enemy would strike. The helmet defended the head, a vital part; and so the hope of salvation will defend the soul, and keep it from the blows of the enemy. A soldier would not fight well without a hope of victory. A Christian could not contend with his foes, without the hope of final salvation; but, sustained by this, what has he to dread?

Eph 6:17 - And take the helmet of salvation,.... Meaning either Christ himself, the Saviour; and so the Arabic version renders it, "the helmet of the Saviour": or the salvation itself, which he is the author of, and a well grounded hope of it; see 1Th_5:8; the allusion is to Isa_59:17; and such an hope of salvation by Christ is a defence of the head against false doctrines; for the helmet is a piece of armour for the head; and it is an erecter of the head in times of difficulty, affliction, and distress; and it covers the head in the day of battle, when engaged with Satan, the enemy of souls:

The next issue will discuss The Sword of The Spirit. Put on your armor daily as we learn more from God. We will never know it all. Immediately use what God has revealed.
 
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Today, we learn about the Sword of the Spirit. the3588 sword3162 of the3588 Spirit,4151 which is3603 the word4487 of God:2316
And the sword - The sword was an essential part of the armor of an ancient soldier. His other weapons were the bow, the spear, or the battle-axe. But, without a sword, no soldier would have regarded himself as well armed. The ancient sword was short, and usually two-edged, and resembled very much a dagger.
Of the Spirit - Which the Holy Spirit furnishes; the truth which he has revealed.
Which is the word of God - What God has spoken - his truth and promises; see the notes on Heb_4:12. It was with this weapon that the Saviour met the tempter in the wilderness; Matt. 4. It is only by this that Satan can now be met. Error and falsehood will not put back temptation; nor can we hope for victory, unless we are armed with truth. Learn, hence:
(1) That we should study the Bible, that we may understand what the truth is.
(2) we should have texts of Scripture at command, as the Saviour did, to meet the various forms of temptation.
(3) we should not depend on our own reason, or rely on our own wisdom.
A single text of Scripture is better to meet a temptation, than all the philosophy which the world contains. The tempter can reason, and reason plausibly too. But he cannot resist a direct and positive command of the Almighty. Had Eve adhered simply to the Word of God, and urged his command, without attempting to “reason” about it, sire would have been safe. The Saviour Mat_4:4, Mat_4:7,Mat_4:10, met the tempter with the Word of God, and he was foiled. So we shah be safe if we adhere to the simple declarations of the Bible, and oppose a temptation by a positive command of God. But, the moment we leave that, and begin to parley with sin, that moment we are gone. It is as if a man should throw away his sword, and use his naked hands only in meeting an adversary. Hence,
(4) we may seethe importance of training up the young in the accurate study of the Bible. There is nothing which will furnish a better security to them in future life, when temptation comes upon them, than to have a pertinent text of Scripture at command. Temptation often assails us so suddenly that it checks all “reasoning;” but a text of Scripture will suffice to drive the tempter from us. (Barnes)

We cannot successfully live the Christian life without the sword. We cannot resist sin’s temptations, find God’s answer to our prayers in most cases, or be effective servants of his without the sword. This essential part of our armor holds God’s answer to every situation or circumstance of life. Without it, we are impotent.
 
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If you do not properly put on your clothes, you will look a mess. This is true with spiritual armor.

The following attributes are yours if you have properly put on your spiritual armor.

1. Truth and sincerity in the inward parts
2. Pure righteousness, faith, and love
3. prepared to share the gospel any time God beckens
4. Fully confident that God will protect you against all temptation and God will never ask of you any service that He will not bring to fulfillment.
5. Salvation is our confident hope that God will protect us against all of Satans weapons.
6. Our weapon for spiritual warfare is our constance companion and guide. God’s Word is our only weapon for spiritual warfare.
 
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I guess the thing that is scaring me the most, is that I am becoming someone i am not, due to these thoughts,

But, I realized from conversastions here & with the Lord; The thoughts are from the Devil, these are not from me. I am not this person, yes I have been through some things, but that is in the past. The Lord has fogiven me, I should do the same & move on.

Furthermore, I am putting my foot down on that Devil!!! I am a child of the Living God, bought by the Precious Shed Blood of Christ. The Devil has no control & no Dominion over me.

Thank you for you advice.

I will be also reading the Armor of God Pieces, it is very refreshing.
 
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bigdAddyweAve423 said:
I am not sure waht you mean by asexual.

I know that sexual feeling & thoughts are natural. I have been getting some sexual thoughts, but mostly not releated to porn. It is, to be honest, Images with other people & i dont want that. Maybe that is the same thing??

I feel ashamed about the images in my head & want them out. I am scared & need prayer. I know this will take time, cause it was over time that things got this way. I really feels good to talk to someone/people who understand & can offer advice from a Godly perspective.

I used the word asexual in the sense of not having sexual thoughts or feelings. If we are not asexual (most of humanity) then we must distinguish between normal, morally neutral sexual feelings and thoughts and wrong ones. I get the impression that many Christians haven't got this distinction sorted out very well.

Lust involves a deliberate choice to actually intend to act or act wrongly. We cannot integrate our sexuality intio our lives without thinking about it, and that must involve feelings, images and sexual material. is this what you struggle with - believeing that any sexual imagery is wrong, or porn in some way? If you have looked at porn you will have those images stored away in your brain. That is a consequence.

You may wish to PM me if you want to be a bit more detailed about what you are actually struggling with. That may be helpful in identifying more exactly what you are struggling with.

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bigdAddyweAve423 said:
Lately, I have been dealing with some things. I have been having a hard time controlling my thoughts. To be honest, for the last 15 years I have struggled with an addiction to pornography. Recently, I have taken a stand for God & got rid of all that junk that was destroying my life. Though, these thoughts were there before getting rid of the pornography. But, not as strong. I know the Devil is trying to pull me back to him, but I am a child of the living God, bought with a price by the Blood of Jesus.

I just need someone to talk to, some advice on how to regain Control. Thanks in advanced.
Get rid of all that offends and pray about it.
 
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