thou shalt not commit adultery

[JohnMarsten]

I was wondering about the following

adultery does not only take place when the dirty deed is done in physical form but also, according to our Lord King Jesus, when somebody takes a lusty look at another person...

that doesnt sound so well... but thats what the Lord said, so its authoritative and binding and will probably haunt especially men...

now I was thinking about that in a deeper or maybe less deeper sense and would like to get some advice

Lets say I am single and take a lustful look at somebody I dont know (I dont know if she is married or not)... streetwalking and stuff... is that sin?

what is more

Lets say I have taken a lustful look at a woman and lets pretend I have 'fallen in love' with her and would like to get to know her (If I dont know her yet) or couple up with her BUT she is neither engaged nor married but has a boyfriend, what is the situation here? or lets even say she is engaged...

what is the situation here? is it sin again? and how am I supposed to proceed? what can I do? can I try to make it up to her? and hope she will break up with her boyfriend? or wait and hope for the worst in regard to their relationship and try to make a move after they have split?

Have you ever been in such dilemma?

Of course one might answer ask the Lord and He will guide you, true, true, but still... what is your take on it.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

The problem, is that we are afraid to call sin, sin in todays politically correct environment. Lust is lust no matter the circumstances )outside of marraige) and is sin if dwelt upon. The temptation is not sin but if you don't pray for deliverance and begin to think upon the lustful temptation, you're 'all in'.

 

[JohnMarsten]

The problem, is that we are afraid to call sin, sin in todays politically correct environment. Lust is lust no matter the circumstances )outside of marraige) and is sin if dwelt upon. The temptation is not sin but if you don't pray for deliverance and begin to think upon the lustful temptation, you're 'all in'.

Allright, that I can agree with...

Maybe I have overstressed the whole thing by frequently using the word 'lustful'.

What I was more interested was the stuff regarding a woman who is already in a relationship prior to marriage.

Now technically, if she is not married, I think I could try my luck and maybe get her round to be with me, and if she agreed that wouldnt be necessarily adultery in an sense... she would just change partners...

what I mean is, if I were to try that with a married woman that would be bad and wrong and without any possible excuse... but since she is not married there shouldnt be anything wrong with it...

Lets change the word 'lustful' into 'being interested' and considering it a relationship potential, the fact that she is with someone but not in wedlock is the only obstacle...

People say that everything is allowed in war and love... but now as a christian what would be the best way of procedure?

just try and see what will happen...

wait and hope that their relationship breaks up before marriage?

Hope youre now getting what I meant...

 

[Contented]

John,

Lust for the single man would be the same as for the married man. When an individual wants something that is not his that is coveteousness, so there is a deeper meaning to lust. Having a natural desire to be friendly with someone is not lust, but when your mind focusses on the object when you know that it is not yours that is where the problem lies. Ancient Israel lusted after meat when God made provision for manna.
Discontent to my mind goes hand in hand. As a matter of fact most of 10 commandements are really broken when we consider lust and adultery. A man sees a woman (knows she is married) and tries ways and means to contact her that is adultery, there is no sexual contact, but Christ points out and magnifies the law against adultery.

If someone has a relationship with someone (I mean non-sexual) they are in love and are making plans for their future I think is downright wrong to place oneself between them, or hoping that they break up. I think the golden rule should apply, do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

I don't think the bible condemns natural desire which is normal, but the mind is what must be "girded" up. Lusting involves also pornography, and other explicit photos of people.

I believe that lusting and coveteousness are bedfellows.

Just my take.

 

[EastCoastRemnant]

I agree with Contented... I would pray for the Lord to lead the way in His time. Maybe the woman you are interested in but is with someone else, is meant for you...but let the Lord work that out becuase maybe she's not. Even if what you desire is available to you, avail the Spirit to make known to you whether it is God's will.

 

[SoldierOfTheKing]

Lust is not simply sexual desire. Lust is viewing another person as nothing more than a means for your own sexual gratification.

 

[JohnMarsten]

I agree with Contented... I would pray for the Lord to lead the way in His time. Maybe the woman you are interested in but is with someone else, is meant for you...but let the Lord work that out becuase maybe she's not. Even if what you desire is available to you, avail the Spirit to make known to you whether it is God's will.

yep, thats what it probably is... I just wanted to know your takes on it... personally I am not the guy who would try to ruin somebody elses relationship. I too think that would be wrong, but I was just wondering.