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Who does he think he is breaking ranks like that?
Who does he think he is breaking ranks like that?
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This light colonel will never make full bird.
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Diane_Windsor
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I just skimmed his article, and since I'm a civilian I may be missing something but how exactly is he "breaking rank"?
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Wayte
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I just skimmed his article, and since I'm a civilian I may be missing something but how exactly is he "breaking rank"?
It's not exactly considered "alright" to let people know how it actually is when it comes to military. They have their image they wanna keep, and ya better damn well put on the same happy face if you wanna keep off the higher ups' naughty list.
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A LTC is a higher up and what do you know of it? and why would he never make O-6?
I was on convoys in afghanistan and I remember one time the sergeant in charge of my vehicle pointed out a hole in the road that was made by an exploded device planted by terrorist. That is common. The uncommon thing is that the hole was about three feet from an Afghan military guard post. I tell you no lie... it was no more than a few feet from a setup guard post manned by afghani soldiers.
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Many a LTC doesn't make COL simply because as far as I can tell that seems to be where many people either decide to make the military a life long pursuit or simply a career. COL and BG seem to me to be where you end up serving more than 30 years, those who only serve 20-25 or so often get out at LTC.
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A little. A lot of it depends on who he runs into when that time comes. If I've learned to appreciate anything since joining the military, it's just how petty people can be.
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Anecdotal? Ya, kinda. It's just form my experience, take from it what you will.
And as for concern over the military's image, I can't say I care too much. The military, or the Navy at least, is a bit too obsessed with public image lately.
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No, he won't. But Lt. Col. is a good place to retire. He might be smarter than we are giving him credit for. If he's planning to retire anyway, now he has the publicity and notoriety to write a book. He might just be paving the way for a career after military retirement. Who knows.
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Well you have to understand that an officer retiring at O-5 and not making O-6 isn't uncommon at all, it isn't even frowned on. It happens all the time. COL is where you begin to ascend the stairs to 30 years or more in military, the path to becoming a general. Lot's of officers, Majors, LTC's don't plan on being a COL a BG, MG LTG or GEN at all. That's the difference between a 20 year career and a 30+ year career. If you did your time and want to go home, you'll stop at around 20 and go home as a LTC... if you want to do the military thing untill your literally too old to do it anymore then you'll make COL and keep going. Lot's of officers don't want that.
Plus... there was no reason for us to assume he'd not make O-6 that I can see. That was a conjecture that everyone seemed to swallow.
Plus... there was no reason for us to assume he'd not make O-6 that I can see. That was a conjecture that everyone seemed to swallow.
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How much blue cool-aid have you been drinking? (maybe it's green cool-aid in the army?) I can only speak from my experience in the AF, but officers who do not "toe the line" get schwaked pretty quickly. This portrayal of the war, while true, does not present the image our generals and congressman want the American public to see. Yes there is no factual evidence that this guy will not make O-6. All one needs though is some common sense and experience to see that in todays military guys like this who tell it as it is do not get promoted.
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I think you're being immature, that's what I think.
I am going to throw this out to a military discussion forum that I frequent and see what they think and I'll bring the verdict back. I don't have the experience as an commissioned officer but I know plenty of people who do.
I am going to throw this out to a military discussion forum that I frequent and see what they think and I'll bring the verdict back. I don't have the experience as an commissioned officer but I know plenty of people who do.
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