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This is Why Homosexuality is Wrong. . .

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The term "slow" does sound rather offensive. That aside, people with learning disabilities might not be capable of looking after a child--after all, they might be incapable of looking after themselves.
 
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Exactly.

Prover or retract, LN.
 
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Heh. One of my favorite stories: "Go up, thou baldhead!" I remember this militant evangelical girl in my high school -- the kind of girl who told all her classmates they were destined for hell -- who wore a t-shirt with the text 2 Kings 2:23-24 on it. I don't think she ever converted anybody; then again, I don't know if she really wanted any of the riff-raff around her to join her in paradise.

WF: Good luck with AmeriCorps! That sounds pretty cool, and sets an example we all need to follow.
 
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This doesn't even deserve a response, but I'll take a stab at it anyway.

Before I start, though, allow me to clear up one thing: a learning disability != mental retardation. I have a learning disability - a couple, actually - but I also have an IQ of 149, which leads me to believe that you're just constructed a strawman.

Many people who actually do have mental disabilities, though, cannot take care of themselves, let alone children. I've met people who have grown up in homes where one or both parents were mentally incapacitated, and in general, they were far more maladjusted than any children of gay couples I've met.

The only insult to virtue here is that people like you would rather place a child in state "care" or with someone who is incapable of caring for them properly than place the child in the care of a loving, capable two-mom or two-dad family.

The mindset which places one's personal prejudices above the well-being of a child is a dangerous mindset indeed.
 
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Straight people make porn too....so is straight sex pornographic sexual behavior?
Yes, of course it is. I see absolutly no difference between homosexual behavior, fornication, adultary, prostitution, incest, etc.... It is all rebellion against GOD. It is all the same thing. It results in the same patterns of behavior. The guy who cheats on his wife is no different then a homosexual. The guy who tries to entice little girls is no different than a homosexual. The guy who exposes himself in public is no different then a homosexual. They are all the same, doing the exact same thing. They abuse the sexual organs, they manipulate people, they want to be able to do whatever they wish with free abandon, they are stuck in a pattern of repetition.... They don't like the term sin applied to what they are doing----though they may say they do not care.
 
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Yes, of course it is. I see absolutly no difference between homosexual behavior, fornication, adultary, prostitution, incest, etc.... It is all rebellion against GOD.
I'm really tired of having every act in todays world compared and contrasted with that of ignorant nomads who lived in a very different world more than 2,000 years ago. I know you believe that there's a god out there but I see no reason to believe such a thing. I especially see no reason to believe the Bible is representative of such a "higher" being. Thus nobody is rebelling against and gods... just against what you think is best. What you think is best based upon ancient and mostly irrelevant texts. These people thought the earth was the center of the universe. They thought that demons inhabited anything they didn't understand. They didn't know about germs or cancer or what the stars are or even what the moon is yet you let their thoughts rule your life.

The guy who cheats on his wife is no different then a homosexual.
Only a turnip who bases his morality on outdated nonsense could come to that conclusion. The cheater is hurting his wife. The homosexual simply has a partner that is of the same sex and is hurting no one.

The guy who tries to entice little girls is no different then a homosexual.
The guy who entices little girls is harming them. The homosexual simply has a partner that is of the same sex and is hurting no one.

Vulgar nonsense removed. No point in responding to asinine foolishness.

They don't like the term sin applied to what they are doing----though they may say they do not care.
Tell you what... you get your God to drag his ass down here and tell us all in person exactly why homosexuality is a sin. Until then it's you that's the sinner. It's you that's harming others with your constant ranting based upon ignorance and ancient ramblings. You want to go live in a tent in the desert? Fine, then your code of ethics might apply. But in today's world it's just no longer applicable. Sin means to miss the target and you've lost sight of what that target is.
 
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I thank my lucky stars that people like you, with your petty prejudices, are becoming less and less relevant to the modern world.

Once your kind held real power, now it is slipping from your grasp in more and more places around the world, and gay people can live their lifes with increasingly normalcy without having you and your ilk salivating over what they get up to in the bedroom.

Happy days
 
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Oh god, I thought this mindset would be long gone by now...guess I was naive.

Incest, rape, and pedophilia all claim me as a victim. I have had exactly one sexual encounter with another female of roughly my age (I was 17, she was 18) when I was in high school. I have also had a couple of heterosexual experiences of the same nature. And ya know what? CONSENSUAL SEX IS NOT RAPE. Do people really not understand that? Seriously? When I think back on consensual sexual activities I've taken part in, it doesn't feel bad. When I think back on having been raped and abused, it makes me feel suicidal.

Anyone who compares homosexuality to rape knows nothing about sex, rape, or love.
 
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That just scares me. Ok, littlenip, in reality the real world that we physically live on, some things are considered worse than others because they are.
This way of thinking is so dangerous. To say that rape is the same as having sex before marriage or to say that child molestation is the same as homosexuality...it makes me seriously wonder if you cannot understand the severity and evil of rape or child abuse.
If your child came home and said, "I'm gay" would you seriously feel the same way if he said, "hey, I might be going to jail for raping someone"?
You can't be that naive and ignorant that you would be able to views these acts all in the same way, can you?
 
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Wow, just wow. Okay I'll admit you are entitled to your own views, but I find this hateful. I mean you don't see the distinction between homosexuality and incest. How are homosexuals abusing sexual organs?
 
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There is only one sin that will keep someone from going to Heaven and that is to reject Jesus Christ as your Lord and Saviour. To reject His sacrifice on the cross for you, is to reject your only avenue to eternal life. It doesn't really matter if you are a homosexual or not. It's not the type of sins you have, it is sin as a whole and the rejection of the only way out of it. Jesus said, I am the Way the Truth and the Life no man comes to the Father but by me. You might have been the nicest person on the face of the earth and never even looked at a homosexual or someone who knew a homosexual but that won't get you any further into Heaven than the homosexual. "For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son that WHOSOEVER believeth in Him should not perish but have everlasting life."

"ALL have sinned and come short of the glory of God BUT the gift of God is eternal life through Jesus Christ His Son."
 
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Wow, just wow. Okay I'll admit you are entitled to your own views, but I find this hateful. I mean you don't see the distinction between homosexuality and incest. How are homosexuals abusing sexual organs?
Just some random stats.

The risk of contracting AIDS from a single act of unprotected heterosexual intercourse is 1 in 715,000. The risk of contracting AIDS from a single act of unprotected homosexual intercourse is 1 in 165. (Tom W. Smith, "Adult Sexual Behavior and Risk of AIDS,"Family Planning Perspectives 23, no. 3 (May/June 1991) 104). "Does Homosexual Activity Shorten Life?" Psychological Reports. Vol. 83, Number . , 1998. Page(s) 847-866.)

Research shows that homosexual men are not getting tested for HIV. A report from the Centers for Disease Control showed that more than three-quarters of the homosexual men studied were unaware they were carrying HIV, the virus that causes AIDS.(Centers for Disease Control, International AIDS Conference, Barcelona, Spain. July 7-12, 2002.

A co-twin study found that men with same-sex partners were 6.5 times as likely as their co-twin to have attempted suicide. The higher rate was not explained by mental health or substance abuse disorders. (Herrell, R. et al (1999) "A Co-twin Control Study in Adult Men" Archives of General Psychiatry. 56, 10: 867 - 874.)

The rate of new HIV infections among men who have sex with men is nine times higher than among women and heterosexual men. (Centers for Disease Control, Media Center, 2002)

A study revealed a dramatic increase in anal cancer among homosexual men. This increase is traced to the Human Papillomavirus (HPV), a sexually-transmitted virus that causes cervical cancer in women and is found in almost all HIV-positive homosexual men. (Report of study at annual meeting of American Society of Colon and Rectal Surgeons, June 26, 2002.)

Homosexual men in San Francisco who reported having unprotected anal sex increased from 30% in 1994 to 39% in 1997. Those who said they had unprotected sex with multiple partners grew from 24% to 33% during the same period. (Sack, K. (1999) "For Gay Men, HIV Peril and Rising Drug Use," New York Times. Jan. 29 internet version)

A 1991 study of homosexual men in New York City revealed that the average number of lifetime sexual partners was 308. (Meyer-Balburg H. Exner, T.,Lorenz G., Gruen, R., Gorman, J, Ehrhardt, A (1991) Sexual Risk Behavior, Sexual Functioning and HIV-Disease Progression in Gay Men Journal of Sex Research. 28, 1: 3-27.)

According to Centers for Disease Control interviews, 50% of male homosexuals had over 500 sexual partners, the first several hundred homosexual men diagnosed with AIDS had an average of l,100 lifetime partners. (Rotello, G. (1997). Sexual Ecology: AIDS and the Destiny of Gay men. NY: Dutton.)

Clinicians Mattison and McWhirter studied 156 long-term homosexual relationships, but found that not one couple was able to maintain sexual fidelity for more than five years. Most maintained a monogamous relationship for less than one year. Homosexual theorists respond by redefining promiscuity as normal and healthy for homosexual men. (The Male Couple: How Relationships Develop, Englewood Cliffs, N.J.: Prentice-Hall, Schmidt, 1995)

A. P. Bell and M. S. Weinberg, in their classic study of male and female homosexuality, found that 43% of white male homosexuals had sex with five hundred or more partners, with 28% having 1,000 or more sex partners. (A. P. Bell and M. S. Weinberg, Homosexualities: A Study of Diversity Among Men and Women (New York: Simon and Schuster, 1978), pp. 308, 309; See also A. P. Bell, M. S. Weinberg, and S. K. Hammersmith, Sexual Preference (Bloomington: Indiana University Press, 1981)

Among heterosexual couples, 75% of husbands and 90% of wives claim never to have had extramarital sex. (Robert T. Michael et al., Sex in America: A Definitive Survey, Boston: Little, Brown & Company, 1994) Other studies and surveys confirm the percentage of faithful spouses between 75-81% for husbands and 85-88% for wives. (Michael W. Widerman, "Extramarital Sex: Prevalence and Correlated in a National Survey," Journal of Sex Research 34 [1997], pg. 2)

i believe that people with same sex attractions . . . should not be ostracized. But I do believe that ultimately they are hurting themselves in spirit, at the very least. As we can see a lot of these people are hurting themselves physically.
 
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Oh god, I thought this mindset would be long gone by now...guess I was naive.
Yeah. I was gone for, how long? Yet still, nothing has changed. It's the same people posting the same things over and over, while being outnumbered by people who are posting points that are being ignored.

LN, please, provide something that shows how homosexuals hurt people. Not something from the bible, not saying "it hurts Jesus," not saying because god said so. Something that can be backed up, hasn't been disproven, or the like. As in, an actual person that is hurt if homosexuals are around.
 
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Nonsense. Provide us with a link from where you got this information. Until then I am going to assume that these "of all" statistics you have are relayed to very, very minor cross sections of various LGBT communities.

Every gay, lesbian, or transgendered person I know can be identified as monogamous, serial monogamous, or celibate. I don't know anyone who has had more that 500 sex partners. Or 100 sex partners. Or 50 sex partners. The highest of anyone I know has had about 25, and she is heterosexual.

I call meadow muffins until I see some linkage.


Oh, bless you! But what I mean was, "I thought this mindset would have died out with most of the producers of Boys Beware."

I second your motion, but nothing will come out of it. In the meantime, grab your glowsticks! It's a rave.
 
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You can post statistics about how AIDS affects homosexual men, but still it is not a "gay" disease. The majority of people who have AIDS are heterosexual, and lesbians are less likely to get the disease being a low risk group. So are you going to say they're hurting themselves? The only issue here is that gay men are a high risk group of getting AIDS. But people like to use the rates of AIDS among gay men only to condemn them. It's impossible for them to see that no one should have to live with a life threatening disease.

And what do faithful married couples have to do with this? You do realize that now, being married is now considered high risk activity? Why? Because (mainly) women are getting AIDS from their husbands? This is also happening in other parts of the world.
http://www.popcouncil.org/pdfs/CM.pdf
Please, lets not act as though being married in a heterosexual monogamous relationship will somehow protect people from AIDS.

Did the last study reveal past sexual relationships? And having over 3oo sex partners? Are you serious? You really believe people can have that many sex partners in their lifetime?
 
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Here's part:
Defenders of Truth - oh the irony
http://www.defendingtruth.org/content_print.asp?content_id=73

They pulled all of their info from here:
http://www.unitedfamilies.org/marriageSexualOrientation.pdf

You'll see many references, including that of Paul Cameron.
Lying is ok if you do it for Jesus.
 
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