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<blockquote data-quote="lucaspa" data-source="post: 780478" data-attributes="member: 4882"><p><span style="font-size: 10px"> </span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">You are desribing the Trinity vs Arianism fight.&nbsp; Trinity is 3 personas in one ousia, to use the Greek terms.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">But dissension in the Christian ranks arose much earlier than this.&nbsp; This was simply the first time Christians wielded political power (Constantine made Christianity the state religion) and was therefore able to use the police power of the state to enforce one view over others.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Yeshu ben Joseph (the human) was never at all clear as to what his exact relationship with Yahweh was.&nbsp; Which is why Christianity has had such different Christologies through its history.&nbsp; Yeshu often referred to himself as "Son of Man" but, if that phrase had a particular meaning in 30 AD, it was lost by the time the gospels were written.&nbsp; So several different Christologies vied for acceptance in the early Church.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">Saul, of course, never knew the historical Yeshu.&nbsp; All his information came from the vision of the risen Jesus.&nbsp; So his Christology differed significantly from that of the Jerusalem disciples.&nbsp; Since he preached to Gentiles unfamiliar with Judaism, he used an edited version of Judaism as his backdrop to Christianity.&nbsp; Saul, as Paul, essentially invented a new religion on the fly.&nbsp; And a religion that does not always correspond to the teachings of Yeshu.</span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px"></span></p><p><span style="font-size: 10px">One thing that still troubles Christianity is that people forget that you can disagree with Paul and some of his specific policies -- such as the role of women in church and homosexuality -- without disagreeing with Christ or Christianity.</span></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="lucaspa, post: 780478, member: 4882"] [size=2] You are desribing the Trinity vs Arianism fight. Trinity is 3 personas in one ousia, to use the Greek terms. But dissension in the Christian ranks arose much earlier than this. This was simply the first time Christians wielded political power (Constantine made Christianity the state religion) and was therefore able to use the police power of the state to enforce one view over others. Yeshu ben Joseph (the human) was never at all clear as to what his exact relationship with Yahweh was. Which is why Christianity has had such different Christologies through its history. Yeshu often referred to himself as "Son of Man" but, if that phrase had a particular meaning in 30 AD, it was lost by the time the gospels were written. So several different Christologies vied for acceptance in the early Church. Saul, of course, never knew the historical Yeshu. All his information came from the vision of the risen Jesus. So his Christology differed significantly from that of the Jerusalem disciples. Since he preached to Gentiles unfamiliar with Judaism, he used an edited version of Judaism as his backdrop to Christianity. Saul, as Paul, essentially invented a new religion on the fly. And a religion that does not always correspond to the teachings of Yeshu. One thing that still troubles Christianity is that people forget that you can disagree with Paul and some of his specific policies -- such as the role of women in church and homosexuality -- without disagreeing with Christ or Christianity.[/size] [/QUOTE]
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