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Thank you very much for your reply. I do agree with you. But I would rather that they do that instead murdering other children because they are the wrong gender. But I do and still agree that we probably shouldn't mess with nature as well unless of course it is to save somebody's life.
 
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Thank you very much. That was very informative.
 
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My advice is don't get medical advice from a psychology text book. There are no x/y sperm inactivation methods

Do I think we should make something illegal that doesn't exist? I think there's more pressing matters to consider.
 
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My advice is don't get medical advice from a psychology text book. There are no x/y sperm inactivation methods

Do I think we should make something illegal that doesn't exist? I think there's more pressing matters to consider.

Okay

I'm not really an expert on psychology. And there have been times when they were wrong. So, I don't know enough to argue with you and you could be right.
 
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Whether or not scientists have found a way to perform such, obviously it's being thought about.

If you're looking to make thinking about stuff illegal, I would say you have watched Minority Report a few too many times.
 
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If you're looking to make thinking about stuff illegal, I would say you have watched Minority Report a few too many times.
I'm not and I've never heard of Minority Report.
 
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Whoa, be careful there. The basis of anti-abortion threads on this forum is no humans are "not yet alive." As that statement fits into this topic, the word contraception is self-explanatory: preventing conception. If a sperm and ova have already joined to produce a zygote, the gender selection is not contraception.
 
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If a sperm and ova have already joined to produce a zygote, the gender selection is not contraception.
IUD's eject a completed zygote. Hormonal contraception can do the same thing (as a side effect).

In vitro fertilization is not abortion, either, but the standard practice is to implant multiple zygotes and, subsequently, abort all but the most successful one.

That is why I said there might be some ethical considerations in the process itself.
 
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If a sperm and ova have already joined to produce a zygote, the gender selection is not contraception.
In theory, gender selection occurs before conception. This is done by stationing a "bouncer" at the doorway to turn away all male (Y) or female (X) sperm. Mom's ovum is always X.

(I do not know the specifics of the process to know if it is completely ethical or not.)
 
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It is still not contraception if a sperm and ova conceive because the woman gets pregnant.

I think the process is IVF (in-vitro fertilization), which basically is conception in a petri dish. The zygote is then implanted into the woman's uterus. This procedure was invented to help ocuples who can't conceive naturally. The ethical issue, if I am correct, is instead of using a husband's sperm, scientists get sperm at a "sperm bank" so often nobody knows who the father is, including the parents.
 
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It is still not contraception if a sperm and ova conceive because the woman gets pregnant.
I agree.
The ethical issue, if I am correct, is instead of using a husband's sperm, scientists get sperm at a "sperm bank" so often nobody knows who the father is, including the parents.
That is one ethical issue. Implanting seven zygotes with the intention of aborting [the least successful] six is certainly another.

As stated in my last post, the gender selection, referred to in the OP, occurs before conception.
 
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Then there is Octomom, whose doctor had his medical license revoked after letting her have 14 children - all as a young single celibate.
Are you saying that a plan that requires subsequent abortions can be ethical...?
 
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Are you saying that a plan that requires subsequent abortions can be ethical...?

The problem in her case was she wanted too many kids. If there were moreb than she could care for she was going to keep all of them no matter what. I doubt it would be big national news if the doctor stopped at her first set of twins.
 
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