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Think I'll sit down here for a bit... (7)

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QuiltAngel

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Mother's Day? Well, worship, a nap, now getting ready to go to the District Pastor's meeting. Hubby is going to graduation while I get things ready to leave, I should go, but just don't have any desire to go. None of the kids have called so far. One did bring me a gift when he was home a couple of weeks ago. It is sunny, windy and cool today.
 
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I went to the LCMS church in Redding last week. The service was some kind of hybrid from the blue hymnal. Does anyone know what 'Creative Worship' means and stands for? How far does this usually go and is it a Seminex (sp) thing?

No, it isn't a Seminex thing. Creative Worship is a liturgical resource service from CPH where different pastors submit creative aspects of certain parts of the liturgy. Personally, I loathe it. When I first arrived here they were using it three of four Sundays per month. It took me a little over a year to wean them off of it. The introduction of the new hymnal aided in that immensely.

To me, Creative Worship is neither creative... nor worship.
 
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To me, Creative Worship is neither creative... nor worship.



Yeah, I have to agree, with the loathing as well. The pastor seemed quite defensive when I questioned him on it. I'm not chuffed in the least that they don't use the new hymnal, just bothered that they are messing around with the liturgy they currently have.

Anyone have any suggestions on how to discuss this in a proactive manner? I'm not good at that. Besides, I'm not even a member yet. Being as they're the only LCMS church in the area I'm kinda stuck with them.
 
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Best thing you can do is listen, learn, and wait. Sometimes, it is amazing what a little patience does.

And for the record, I have been in services with Creative Worship, and it was quite pleasing. But it takes a lot of extra work to make it that way. Slap-together any way that strikes my fancy is not being faithful to the liturgical heritage. Using Creative Worship responsibly can aid in worship.



But just a few pfennigs thoughts from an old codger

 
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My Pastor does the "creative worship" thing combined with Luther's Hymn Service every 4th week. It's rather nice because we get to use new hymns and it gives the brain a chance to really THINK about what we're doing when we're worshiping. Ya know?

But I can see how some could take it and run with it to "get off track" and start implementing "I-ship" instead of Worship.

Kae
 
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But I can see how some could take it and run with it to "get off track" and start implementing "I-ship" instead of Worship.

I-ship instead of wor-ship? I love it (LOL)! Thanks for the laugh Kae! I really needed it. That really puts the finger on what the problem is with that kind of thing though. My focus is on the Lord, not what can be done for me during worship. This changing of the wording of the Creeds and the liturgy is very worrisome to me. Especially after what happened with the ELCA. After that experiance, I've gotten very leery of any gerrymandering with the liturgy or message of the Church.

In fact, this very gerrymandering puts the finger on what the problem is. It's I-ship. I want to hear a message that's for me. I must hear music that meets my tasts and stqndards. I must hear the Creeds in words that are new and original so they mean more to me. I must have it my way. I don't want that oldliturgy and fogey music! YUK!! Yup... That sums it up, I-ship.

No, I don't mind hearing a new hymn once in a while. Even a new one every Sunday doesn't bother me. Still, to quote Martin Luther, "Don't let's throw the baby out with the bathwater," though.

Sorry if this sounds like a rant. Yes, I know, "get over it." I'll try.

Filo, your advice is succinct. Patience, though, is a very difficult concept for me.
 
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I'm with you too, Stude!

I do have to say that, even though Pastor "tinkers" with the service...it's all still from the liturgy. It's never a "new" way of saying the creed or anything like that. It's still the "same old same old" but maybe instead of speaking the creed, we'll sing it. Or chant it even. Mostly just sing it. *G* Sometimes we'll use the explanations to the creed.

But your "rant" on I-ship is exactly what I was thinking when I wrote that.
 
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I've had a headache all day. I've taken 2 naps and I still feel like crud. I went out to pull some weeds from the flower bed, thinking maybe I just needed to get out. It didn't seem to help. Does anyone else here ever have one of those days when you just can't seem to get anything going...including your brain?
 
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Does anyone else here ever have one of those days when you just can't seem to get anything going...including your brain?

You mean that it's possible to get mine going? Sometimes I feel like everyone else's is a Mazaratti and mine is a Model-T.

I know exactly how you feel, sis. Melancholy runs in my family as well. Just do exactly what you did. Even though you didn't feel better, getting out and working in the garden did you good. It's better than sitting under that lamp! Just count your blessings you don't have my friend Paula trying to cheer you up (LOL).:o

Speaking of the garden... I've got my own going too. Planted tomatoes, potatoes, onions, radishes, carrots, beans (bush and pole), and various flowers. It's so gratifying to see this place come back alive. George has really been enjoying seeing his gardens growing and expanding and the place coming back to life. I hope it gets him out of the doldroms from the terrible things that have happened here in the past.
 
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Hubby was hoping to retire in October, he works at GE and they have been offering packages i think 55 with 25 or 30 years in, they been offering a package so they could retire. Now GE is going to sell their Appliance division so if they sell it before October he won't get it.
 
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Here's what I found as a summary of that Twilight Zone episode:

 
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Thanks Synger. That was beautiful. I only hope it's true...

I'm glad you're feeling better, Seajoy. May our Lord bless you further healing in the coming days of summer. May he also grant you a cooler summer than we're having here. It's supposed to be nearly a hundred today. My poor Delphiniums.
 
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