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<blockquote data-quote="seashale76" data-source="post: 55580700" data-attributes="member: 95814"><p>Urban did, but Christendom was <em>much</em> more than Rome. Considering the Great Schism occurred in 1054 (though there were factors that preceded the formal break) and the Fourth Crusade, in particular, began in 1202- one must understand who the particular Christians were that Urban was calling to action. In effect, it was only those Christians who were in his See (which was only a drop in the bucket). The other Sees were not even in communion with Rome at that point (though they were with each other)- and communion is and was <em>everything</em> to the Church. The disagreement between the other Christian patriarchs and Rome was such that they considered themselves to practically be following different religions (if one looks at it simply- it isn't quite that simple). It is and was a serious enough issue that we're <em>still</em> not united by communion. (As an Orthodox Christian, I couldn't go to a Roman Catholic Church and receive communion, much less any other type of Christian church that is one of the many schisms from Roman Catholicism- which is practically all of the denominations one hears about and is familiar with- and with these groups our theology has very little in common.) From an Orthodox perspective (no offense to anyone) Rome went rogue.</p><p></p><p>The biggest issue I see is that people are only taught that there was the Early Church and then there was Rome, and this is simply not the case.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="seashale76, post: 55580700, member: 95814"] Urban did, but Christendom was [I]much[/I] more than Rome. Considering the Great Schism occurred in 1054 (though there were factors that preceded the formal break) and the Fourth Crusade, in particular, began in 1202- one must understand who the particular Christians were that Urban was calling to action. In effect, it was only those Christians who were in his See (which was only a drop in the bucket). The other Sees were not even in communion with Rome at that point (though they were with each other)- and communion is and was [I]everything[/I] to the Church. The disagreement between the other Christian patriarchs and Rome was such that they considered themselves to practically be following different religions (if one looks at it simply- it isn't quite that simple). It is and was a serious enough issue that we're [I]still[/I] not united by communion. (As an Orthodox Christian, I couldn't go to a Roman Catholic Church and receive communion, much less any other type of Christian church that is one of the many schisms from Roman Catholicism- which is practically all of the denominations one hears about and is familiar with- and with these groups our theology has very little in common.) From an Orthodox perspective (no offense to anyone) Rome went rogue. The biggest issue I see is that people are only taught that there was the Early Church and then there was Rome, and this is simply not the case. [/QUOTE]
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