The first death is the death of the body, and the second death is that of the spirit. A spirit who is condemned to death is cut off from the living for all eternity, their fire (judgment) never dies. (never stops.)
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The first death is the death of the body, and the second death is that of the spirit. A spirit who is condemned to death is cut off from the living for all eternity, their fire (judgment) never dies. (never stops.)What is your view of that second death shown in Revelation?
Reve 2:11 The one having an ear, let hear! what the spirit is saying to the Outcalleds. The one conquering not no may be being injured out of the Death, the Second
Reve 21:8 To the yet timids and unfaithfuls and abominables and murderers and prostituters and sorcerers and idolaters and all the false-ones, the part of them in the lake, the one burning to fire and sulphur, which is the Death the second.
The first death is the death of the body, and the second death is that of the spirit. A spirit who is condemned to death is cut off from the living for all eternity, their fire (judgment) never dies. (never stops.)
The words grave and pit were replaced with the word hell.Ummm...and exactly how do you define hell?
Our scriptures use many parabolic words. Hell is simply not a true scriptural teaching. The final death is the death of the spirit. Hell is part of the Pagan religion. It does not belong in the religion of Judaism and Christianity. Joining paganism to Yahwah is a sin.So let me get this straight. You believe that a spirit that dies as an unbeliever faces eternal fire (judgment), yet you don't believe in the word hell.
So basically this argument comes down to semantics? Or am I missing something here?
In some sense yes as they are also trying to hide in caves from His face of Judgement...Okay, so regardless of the word being used here...
You believe that unbelieving spirits die in eternal judgment. What exactly does God during this judgment? Wag his fingers at them and say "no no no"?
I do not know of any scripture that is explicit in how God does away with them. I do know that it is an act of God that we are called back into being, and I do know that he takes away the life of those who are condemned.Okay, so regardless of the word being used here...
You believe that unbelieving spirits die in eternal judgment. What exactly does God during this judgment? Wag his fingers at them and say "no no no"?
Well first there would have to be an earthly destruction then a raising up of them at the white throne where the final judgement is.I do not know of any scripture that is explicit in how God does away with them. I do know that it is an act of God that we are called back into being, and I do know that he takes away the life of those who are condemned.
Only the "Elect" go to heaven. Scripture says that the punishment for sin is death. Now if there is "death" for the condemed; then how can there be a hell for eternal punishment.So, it would therefore follow, no one goes to hell. We all go to heaven.
Well first there would have to be an earthly destruction then a raising up of them at the white throne where the final judgement is.
Notice what Paul says here to those who wrest/twist the Scriptures. That same form of the word "destroy" is used for that Beast in Revelation.....Fascinating!
2Peter 3:16 As also in all the letters speaking in them about these-things in which is difficult to understand who-any which the un-learned and un-steadfast are wresting/twisting as also the rests of Writings toward the own of them destruction/apwleian <684>. [# 684 used reve 17:8, 11]
Reve 17:8 The beast which you perceived was, and not is, and is being about to be ascending out of the abyss, and into destruction/apwleian <684> it is going away.
Good work on your post.I "Googled" "Hell" and all I found available were mythological "definitions" in the folklore of many different cultures. It seems that any clear universal definition of "Hell" doesn't even exist. Your definition of "Hell" apparently depends on which culture you prefer: Islam, Buddist, Christian, Hindu, Baha'i etc.
Our scriptures are full of Parables, and the word "fire" is often used to mean judgment. The words sea, ocean, rivers, streams, waters and lake are used to mean peoples.Has anyone read about the second death?
Rev 2:11
Rev 20:6
Rev 20:14
Rev 21:8
We are not always told when a parable is being used. And so a spirit of discernment is required.Jesus always made it known when he was using a parable to illustrate a point.
We are not always told when a parable is being used. And so a spirit of discernment is required.
I am talking about the entire bible, not just Yahshua's parables.No, actually, it was quite clear when a parable was being used.
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