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I already explained a lot in previous posts.Please... feel free to post these experiments and basic scientific facts.
Thank you... I did word that poorly... well stated.You expressed that poorly. We know exactly how gravity works in the sense that we know its effects so well that we have been able to navigate probes to every planet, to many moons, a few asteroids and to the edge of the solar system. What we don't have is a solid theory that explains the cause of gravity.
You just proved that they are twisted due to the path of the sun... not Coriolis.Maybe (i don't know).
You know what is a fact though?
That trees grow slightly twisted. Especially near the poles.
They follow the sun so the trunks are twisted.
And guess what: In the south of the equator they're twisted in the opposite direction.
Do I have to prove what causes cancer, in order to be correct when I say that it's not due to eating popcorn?Then, perhaps YOU could explain how this happens on a flat earth ?
What is it that reverses the spinning vortex of storms from one side of the equator to the other ... if there is no spin.
Sorry.. can you go over which post has a specific and direct explanation of anything that proves that we:I already explained a lot in previous posts.
Do you have a specific question?
Maybe i have a specific answer.
Just scroll up.Sorry.. can you go over which post has a specific and direct explanation of anything that proves that we:
Spin
Orbit
or
are a ball.
I saw an engineer do an explanation of this. And, if Coriolis was correct, no long range flight would be able to land due to the vast side slip of the plane in accordance to the earth spinning under it. Especially in trying to land on a North / South Runway.
Indeed, they're not sure.Thank you... I did word that poorly... well stated.
The cause of gravity... elusive.
Honestly I don't know how to find scientific research from the 1600 and 1700s. This stuff has been studied and incontrovertible for 2 centuries. Then 21st century man thinks he's stumbled acrossbsomething never before considered.Can you give us a couple of scientific studies that prove that we are a ball.. or spin.. or orbit and move through space?
We've known that the earth is a sphere for a long time. From Wiki ...
The earliest reliably documented mention of the spherical Earth concept dates from around the 6th century BC when it appeared in ancient Greek philosophy but remained a matter of speculation until the 3rd century BC, when Hellenistic astronomy established the spherical shape of the Earth as a physical given and calculated Earth's circumference. The paradigm was gradually adopted throughout the Old World during Late Antiquity and the Middle Ages.
No, not really...
FE has that figured out too... they cancel each other out.Of course it is.
When the sun disappears behind the horizon while it is still up the further West you go, etcetera...
A lot of this is also backed and explained by a person who understands the proposed FE model. I suggest you look into this.. but be careful. Each one of them started off exactly like you.. thinking it's preposterous.Not a matter of forcing:
PROOF the earth is a spinning globe: Sextant (navigation), night sky varies with latitude,
slightly less gravity on the equator than on the poles due to centrifugal force,
Maps are far easier to explain a flat earth..maps and distances. This is impossible in a flat earth model. No need for flying freemasons and their ambiguous video footage.
Yep, they also concluded that a witch would float.Man has concluded the earth is a globe long long ago.
Well then.. check out the example of the man that did this on land, in the US, with three different mountain ranges over 100's of miles of varying distances that don't show any evidence of curve.This is true, sometimes.
BUt if you had done some proper research, you would have known this, especially over water, is due to air density
and thus refractive index differences causing light to bend along the curvature of the earth.
Again, remind me to get this for you if you cannot find it for yourself. This guy did his homework and the mountains don't conform to the curve.The effect on light rays is that they will be bent downward, following the curvature a little, because it's slowed down more in dense air than in less dense air.
Especially water vapour, close to water, makes air denser.
Except when it is done for a TV production. Complete with narration by Steven Hawking. Then the laser shoots off at a rate perfectly matching the 8 inches per mile squared... Too bad that they have been shown to be actors and the video was severely edited and torn apart by those that can prove such a circus act.Yeah, the refraction effects also work on laser light.
So i explained it to you, because it seems you didn't understand it.
Or maybe you don't want to.
So because NASA are untrustworthy freemasons that have been caught lying and misrepresenting stuff, the earth is flat?My dear friend, seriously, stop and think a minute. Trillion dollar NA$A claims to have gone through our so called "solar system" -
NASA - On February 17, 1998, Voyager 1 reached a distance of 69 AU from the Sun and overtook Pioneer 10 as the most distant spacecraft from Earth. Travelling at about 17 kilometers per second (11 mi/s) it has the fastest heliocentric recession speed of any spacecraft
yet here is what TPTB at NASA give us to un-explain Gods creation the earth, and instead present Lucifer's creation:
Tell me One thing in this CGI-created cartoon video above that's actually taken by any so called space probe like the Voyager or Pioneer? Here is what we get:
- "Voyager I fires it's Dormant Thrusters for the first time after 37 years"
The proof, .. right there, I mean how could anyone deny this? Voyager is pictured right above as it's passing the god-Jupiter, .. or is it Mars? (.. all these paintings look the same to me.)
Here is their proof that Voyager I and II is really flying through space:
Now if we FE'r were getting billions of dollars a month grants from the government and shown this as proof for our work, people would not only sue us to get the grant monies back, but would hang us! Yet NASA gets away with it because our entire government is run by NASA.
We have no cameras zoomed in on earth from the ISS or ANY other so called spy satellites, just CGI cartoons and Photoshop images, or that ridiculous "Live Streaming of the globe from the ISS", so if that's enough for anyone to believe God is not the Creator, .. then hey, what can we FE creationists say, .. right?
Here is how Globe earthers planets were formed: (these images are no different than any other that NASA has given us of earth, or any other so called planets. So you could say this was an actual photo taken 4 billion years ago!)
Its amazing to me that the millions of people who have or who do work at NASA are doing such a great job at being tight lipped about the "truth". Its so shocking that it makes me doubt the entire story line that NASA is organization of evil incarnate.My dear friend, seriously, stop and think a minute. Trillion dollar NA$A claims to have gone through our so called "solar system" -
NASA - On February 17, 1998, Voyager 1 reached a distance of 69 AU from the Sun and overtook Pioneer 10 as the most distant spacecraft from Earth. Travelling at about 17 kilometers per second (11 mi/s) it has the fastest heliocentric recession speed of any spacecraft
yet here is what TPTB at NASA give us to un-explain Gods creation the earth, and instead present Lucifer's creation:
Tell me One thing in this CGI-created cartoon video above that's actually taken by any so called space probe like the Voyager or Pioneer? Here is what we get:
- "Voyager I fires it's Dormant Thrusters for the first time after 37 years"
The proof, .. right there, I mean how could anyone deny this? Voyager is pictured right above as it's passing the god-Jupiter, .. or is it Mars? (.. all these paintings look the same to me.)
Here is their proof that Voyager I and II is really flying through space:
Now if we FE'r were getting billions of dollars a month grants from the government and shown this as proof for our work, people would not only sue us to get the grant monies back, but would hang us! Yet NASA gets away with it because our entire government is run by NASA.
We have no cameras zoomed in on earth from the ISS or ANY other so called spy satellites, just CGI cartoons and Photoshop images, or that ridiculous "Live Streaming of the globe from the ISS", so if that's enough for anyone to believe God is not the Creator, .. then hey, what can we FE creationists say, .. right?
Here is how Globe earthers planets were formed: (these images are no different than any other that NASA has given us of earth, or any other so called planets. So you could say this was an actual photo taken 4 billion years ago!)
And the global model is the only model that is in agreement with the known and experimentally well verified laws of physics.
It's likely to all be settled in a matter of months. Space travel has gone commercial ...
Laws of physics, .. like gravity, right? Where every other so called planet with different sizes/mass pull things to their ground at different speed, EXCEPT Earth's. The Globe earth will pull ALL masses, even Jupiter at the same 9.807 m/s^2, .. lol.
There is physics, and then you have sci-fi pseudoscience which has become same as science. People been so brainwashed by sci-fi that they can't differentiate between the two. That's why when you go to a Science Fair, Darth Wader welcomes you at the door, and Storm troopers direct you to different projects.
It was in reaction to your matter of factly claims without arguments, so...There's a lot here so bear with please..
I don't consider that a strong point for argument. Well, not really.
What cancels eachother out?FE has that figured out too... they cancel each other out.
So you've got nothing.A lot of this is also backed and explained by a person who understands the proposed FE model. I suggest you look into this.. but be careful. Each one of them started off exactly like you.. thinking it's preposterous.
It doesn't explain reality.Many of the problems with people understanding the FE is that they forget that the FE has the sun, moon and stars very very close... not light years or millions of miles away.. This can throw ya.
Well, i came across a FE argument at the time, that if the earth was spinning 1 revolution per 24 hours, the centrifugal force would make things on the equator fly off the earth...Ya see.. I argued, a while back, in an old thread, that this should be observed.. However, a strong globe earth person fought tooth and nail that this would not be so and if it was, would be too small of a change to measure.. So, now, I don't know if it is a measurable fact or some fabrication... more study needed.
Good point though.
No they're not.Maps are far easier to explain a flat earth..
Yes, but a map is a spherical surface 'mapped' on a rectangle.Once you start wrapping it around a ball.. things go wonky.
Yes, but that's because NASA pictures are often ambiguous.Continents are bigger or smaller and things get confusing. Even the 12 CGI images of our supposed "Blue Marble" cannot get the sizes right.
I doubt that was an actual conclusion.Yep, they also concluded that a witch would float.
It's probably debunked too..Well then.. check out the example of the man that did this on land, in the US, with three different mountain ranges over 100's of miles of varying distances that don't show any evidence of curve.
Well, isn't that the thing with mountains (and valleys), that they don't conform to the curve?Again, remind me to get this for you if you cannot find it for yourself. This guy did his homework and the mountains don't conform to the curve.
And that's the crazy part of this whole thing.Except when it is done for a TV production. Complete with narration by Steven Hawking. Then the laser shoots off at a rate perfectly matching the 8 inches per mile squared... Too bad that they have been shown to be actors and the video was severely edited and torn apart by those that can prove such a circus act.
Well, as i said, as a Bible believing Christian, and having learned that modern day truths aren't necessarily true at all, i was in favour of the Flat Earth model.Thanks but I have seen all of this before. I have been following this debate for a year or so and this is all basic stuff.
To me. It neither proves or disproves either model.
I am still on my quest for truth.
What would it take for you to believe that the earth is flat?
Its amazing to me that the millions of people who have or who do work at NASA are doing such a great job at being tight lipped about the "truth". Its so shocking that it makes me doubt the entire story line that NASA is organization of evil incarnate.
What are your thoughts on the space programs of China, Iran, Europe, canada, japan, india, and Russia? Are they just as evil or are there?
I only say this because I worry you are spreading dangerously false testimony against someone with no proof of their personal culpability.
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