Theotokos: 7 Questions & Answers

[Incariol]

A cool video from His Grace Michael, the Bishop of New York and New Jersey.

The Theotokos: 7 Questions and 7 Answers on Vimeo

 

[Dorothea]

Thanks for posting. When I get the chance, I'll watch it!

 

[James4_14]

***Luke 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

From the "handmaid of the Lord" to the mother of God. How interesting.

Such is the power of the priesthood and the rc.

The Son of Man is the flesh. God is God. God has no mother.

 

[Dorothea]

nobody who has commented is RC. And Mary is the mother of Christ God. Period. This is confirmed by Elizabeth's loud voice saying "Why has the Mother of My Lord come...."

 

[James4_14]

nobody who has commented is RC. And Mary is the mother of Christ God. Period. This is confirmed by Elizabeth's loud voice saying "Why has the Mother of My Lord come...."

The Greek word is...kurios...NOT theos. There is a difference....period.

***John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord (kurios) and my God (theos).
Kurios is a matter of supremacy.

"Kuriotokos" maybe...but NOT "theotokos".

The Hebrew word "El" or "Elohim" is translated to the Greek Word "theos".

***Gen 1:1 In the beginning God (Elohim) created the Heaven and the earth.
Certainly you are not suggesting....? Naaahhh. Cannot be.

 

[James4_14]

***Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

***Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

***2 Cor 5:19 To wit, that God (theos) was in Christ (the flesh), reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

 

[MarkRohfrietsch]

The Greek word is...kurios...NOT theos. There is a difference....period.

***John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord (kurios) and my God (theos).
Kurios is a matter of supremacy.

"Kuriotokos" maybe...but NOT "theotokos".

The Hebrew word "El" or "Elohim" is translated to the Greek Word "theos".

***Gen 1:1 In the beginning God (Elohim) created the Heaven and the earth.
Certainly you are not suggesting....? Naaahhh. Cannot be.

Interesting spin, considering elsewhere in Scripture, "Lord" is referring directly to God.

***Heb 10:20 By a new and living way, which he hath consecrated for us, through the veil, that is to say, his flesh;

***Heb 10:5 Wherefore when he cometh into the world, he saith, Sacrifice and offering thou wouldest not, but a body hast thou prepared me:

***2 Cor 5:19 To wit, that God (theos) was in Christ (the flesh), reconciling the world unto himself, not imputing their trespasses unto them; and hath committed unto us the word of reconciliation.

Christ's two natures are inseparable; from Scripture we know that Christ was

Begotten of the Father before all ages. (John 1:2)

Jesus was always God prior to His Incarnation... and

True God of True God; (John 17:1-5)

of one essence with the Father (John 10:30)

Such is not only the teaching of orthodox Christian theology, but is also contained in the Statement of Faith of CF.

To state that Mary only bore the human nature of Christ is to deny not only the teachings of Scirpture on this matter, but also the orthodox beliefs of the Church prior to the compilation of Scripture as the Bible we know today.

This is why Catholics, Eastern Orthodox, Oriental Orthodox, Lutherans, Anglicans, and a number of other Christian Denominations have used, and continue to use the terms Theotokos, Mother of our Lord, Mother of God when referring the Blessed St. Mary.

 

[katherine2001]

***Luke 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

From the "handmaid of the Lord" to the mother of God. How interesting.

Such is the power of the priesthood and the rc.

The Son of Man is the flesh. God is God. God has no mother.

Is Jesus God? Did Mary not carry Him in her womb and give birth to Him at His incarnation in the flesh? Could Jesus be truly human without having a human mother to give Him humanity?

Jesus is God and He has a mother! He even made sure that His mother was taken care of as He was dying the on cross by making the Apostle John (St. John the Theologian) responsible for taking care of her, as He was her only child and it was His responsibility to make sure that His mother was cared for.

 

[Dorothea]

The Greek word is...kurios...NOT theos. There is a difference....period.

***John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord (kurios) and my God (theos).
Kurios is a matter of supremacy.

"Kuriotokos" maybe...but NOT "theotokos".

The Hebrew word "El" or "Elohim" is translated to the Greek Word "theos".

***Gen 1:1 In the beginning God (Elohim) created the Heaven and the earth.
Certainly you are not suggesting....? Naaahhh. Cannot be.

I don't really know if you realize how silly you sound trying to lecture a member of the Greek Orthodox Church, the Church for which knows the Greek language intimately and accurately, and the same Church whose Church Fathers compiled the very NT bible that you are using to try to incorrectly interpret it. I don't suppose you realize this. If you did, I wouldn't think you'd be doing so.

 

[Knee V]

Unfortunately, I cannot watch videos or do any kind of streaming without being charged an arm and a leg. If I get a chance to head to Starbucks some time soon, I'll give this a watch.

 

[cajunhillbilly]

It is amazing how our evangelical brothers keep making these attacks on the title Mother of God, when even evangelical seminaries will teach that is an apporiate title for the Blessed Virgin. Check Luther, check Calvin, check Hodge of Princeton when it was conservative and evangelical. Just amazing. By the way, I wnet to Westminster Seminary in Phillie and it taught that the title Mother of God was in keeping with orthodox Presbyterian theology.

 

[Trogool]

I don't really know if you realize how silly you sound trying to lecture a member of the Greek Orthodox Church, the Church for which knows the Greek language intimately and accurately, and the same Church whose Church Fathers compiled the very NT bible that you are using to try to incorrectly interpret it. I don't suppose you realize this. If you did, I wouldn't think you'd be doing so.

This is what happened in the above post.

 

[sculleywr]

***Luke 1:38 And Mary said, Behold the handmaid of the Lord; be it unto me according to thy word. And the angel departed from her.

From the "handmaid of the Lord" to the mother of God. How interesting.

Such is the power of the priesthood and the rc.

The Son of Man is the flesh. God is God. God has no mother.

To quote Martin Luther, "God did not derive his divinity from Mary; but it does not follow that it is therefore wrong to say that God was born of Mary, that God is Mary's Son, and that Mary is God's mother...She is the true mother of God and bearer of God...Mary suckled God, rocked God to sleep, prepared broth and soup for God, etc. For God and man are one person, one Christ, one Son, one Jesus. not two Christs. . .just as your son is not two sons...even though he has two natures, body and soul, the body from you, the soul from God alone." (On the Councils and the Church, 1539).

To put it more bluntly, to state that Mary is not the mother of God is to say, by extension, that Christ is not God. Mary carried, gave birth to, nursed, fed, and essentially raised God. If someone were to call another the son of a witch, the implication is that his mother is a witch. If we call Christ God and we call Christ the Son of Mary, then we call Mary the mother of God by extension.

 

[sculleywr]

The Greek word is...kurios...NOT theos. There is a difference....period.

***John 20:28 And Thomas answered and said unto him, My Lord (kurios) and my God (theos).
Kurios is a matter of supremacy.

"Kuriotokos" maybe...but NOT "theotokos".

The Hebrew word "El" or "Elohim" is translated to the Greek Word "theos".

***Gen 1:1 In the beginning God (Elohim) created the Heaven and the earth.
Certainly you are not suggesting....? Naaahhh. Cannot be.

Kyrios (or Kurios) is the Greek version of the Hebrew word YHWH. YHWH is always translated as Lord in the KJV, and rightly so. The Lord IS God, so to say Christ is Lord is to say that Christ is God.