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If a phenomenon couldn't be explained, why couldn't we say God did it? Untill further research shows that it actually has a natural explanation?
When I used the word "God", maybe I should have used the word "divine"
Why wouldn't there be an incentive? It would allow you to show our version of God wrong.
I've heard it say by atheists that it is up to the theist to prove that God exists, except the way I see it, the atheist doesn't know everything about the physical universe and how it got here, so couldn't God be a working hypothesis?
If a phenomenon couldn't be explained, why couldn't we say God did it?
Because "it can´t be explained" is a more precise way of saying it. Replacing it by the wording "God did it" pretends to be some sort of explanation, whilst it isn´t.If a phenomenon couldn't be explained, why couldn't we say God did it?
ehehe said:Er, and how many thousands of years have people been trying to prove the existence of a god? Work on UFT only started recently. I'm getting really sick of this so-called Christian impatience. Today isn't the last day of all time.
Tynan said:There is no such thing as Atheistic science.
Tynan said:If we were to adopt this Nonsensical agenda driven logic would you accept that there is an onus on the Christian to prove the non-existence of the following gods ? . . .
Tynan said:It may take a 300 years, maybe ten thousand years, where does the desire in you to stop the search come from?
People have been proving the existence of God since other people decided to try an disprove His existence. Mankind used to know that He existed, until some of us started doubting.
Exactly! God is unfalsifiable, and thus has no place in science.And anyway, even the disovery of the GUT won't totally disprove God - for why couldn't God have put these physics in place?
There's nothing wrong when a scientist sets out to prove something happened exactly the way they think it happened. When that scientist encounters evidence to the contrary, however, and still continues to insist that scenario is correct, they have stopped being a scientist.There is atheistic science and theistic science - the latter is carried out by scientists striving to understand God's creation, whereas the former is carried out by scientists who have no religious motivation.
If belief in christianity died out, would that, in your opinion, be proof that christianity is false?For almost every one of those gods, their belief systems died out long ago, so how can any of these be the 'true' god/gods?
Because such attitudes lead nowhere. If you start out with the presumption that you can't do something, and thus never try, how will you know if you can indeed do something?I am merely saying that atheistic scientists never accept that the problems they are grappling with might not have solutions comprihensible by our minds.
Of course they are. If they weren't, they never would have been scientists to begin with.They are convinced of man's supremacy over everything, that given time we could do anything.
If we have to disprove every god anyone ever made up in order to be atheists, you'll have to disprove every god minus one. I suggest you start with some minor animistic deities before tackling Allah or Shiva.I'm still not sure if the onus should be on the theist or the atheist.
For starters, you could give us only one good reason why it should be on the atheist.I'm still not sure if the onus should be on the theist or the atheist.
For starters, you could give us only one good reason why it should be on the atheist.
Because the atheist doesn't know how the universe came to be without one and blames it on ignorance.
Do you know how God made the Universe Rich?
What are you going to do when there is a widely accepted theory of the origin of the universe?
And this is a reason exactly how?Because the atheist doesn't know how the universe came to be without one
Blames what on whose ignorance?and blames it on ignorance.
Blames our inability to explain the beginnings of the universe on human ignorance.Blames what on whose ignorance?
What does this have to do with the topic?
So the onus is not on the christian or the atheist, they both have to prove their point.The athiest assumes the case is purely scientific and you assume with your God of the Gaps, that it was God
ANd like I said, what will you do when a theory of how the big bang happened is widely accepted?
test it.
So the onus is not on the christian or the atheist, they both have to prove their point.
I obviously won't just blindly accept it, now will I?
It depends if it's sound or not.
What do theists blame our inability to explain the beginnings of the universe on?Blames our inability to explain the beginnings of the universe on human ignorance.
What do theists blame our inability to explain the beginnings of the universe on?
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