Theater thing is getting on my nerves

JonMiller · Jun 10, 2007

Often sin is more our response to things than the thing itself. For example, if we do something great, like design a stunningly beautiful statue, if we say "I am the greatest" that is sinful, while if we are humble and recognise God it is not. Now building the statue is not sinful, rather it is in our response to building the statue.

This might need a new thread. I think that many adventists have to simplistic a view towards sin.

JM

JonMiller · Jun 10, 2007

Woob: entertainment doesn't have to be visual.

JM

woobadooba · Jun 10, 2007

mjona3 said:
Woob: entertainment doesn't have to be visual.

JM

I agree.

My blind man illustration wasn't very good.

TrustAndObey · Jun 10, 2007

mjona3 said:
Often sin is more our response to things than the thing itself. For example, if we do something great, like design a stunningly beautiful statue, if we say "I am the greatest" that is sinful, while if we are humble and recognise God it is not. Now building the statue is not sinful, rather it is in our response to building the statue.

JM

I agree. And how many of us have compared ourselves to the movie stars we see? How do we stack up to someone like that?

I worked with a woman that watched a movie with....shoot, can't think of her name right now....anyway, she's older and still beautiful. My co-worker kept saying "why can't I look like that? We're the same age."

I told her that she'd look the same way if she hadn't had children, had maids, cosmetic surgery....etc.

By the way, my co-worker WAS beautiful. Maybe not the same kind of beautiful, but beautiful nonetheless.

TrustAndObey · Jun 10, 2007

I'm comfortable in my own skin and comparisons of how we look compared to people like that, is destructive, IMHO.

I am looking forward to a glorified body though.

Mankin · Jun 10, 2007

If you don't go to the movie theater for spirtual reasons then you should not watch any movies at home because those movies were once showing in the movie theater. The logic is still messed up with the whole theater thing. Let's say you play baskettball, well some basketball players don't live good moral lives. Does that make playing baskettball a sin. no. Same thing with the theater.

woobadooba · Jun 10, 2007

Mankin said:
If you don't go to the movie theater for spirtual reasons then you should not watch any movies at home because those movies were once showing in the movie theater. The logic is still messed up with the whole theater thing. Let's say you play baskettball, well some basketball players don't live good moral lives. Does that make playing baskettball a sin. no. Same thing with the theater.

Of course, we could just simplify this, and suggest that rather than wasting precious time watching a movie it would be better to use that time to read the Bible, exercise, or just simply spend some quality time with your family.

JonMiller · Jun 10, 2007

Some people like watching movies together, it is like reading the same book, but not as difficult (often). Face it, we are visual beings.

And Mankin, once upon a time adventists were against all competitive sport. This has almost entirely changed, I expect other things to also.

JM

woobadooba · Jun 10, 2007

mjona3 said:
Some people like watching movies together, it is like reading the same book, but not as difficult (often). Face it, we are visual beings.

And Mankin, once upon a time adventists were against all competitive sport. This has almost entirely changed, I expect other things to also.

JM

It's not an issue of what we like, but one of doing what is best. It's about making the best use of ones time.

By the way, how could couples really come to understand each other in a more profound way while their faces are glued to a TV?

Hopefully that question will help you to see what I mean by quality time.

Of course, if one is single the question may be irrelevant. Then again, it would still be better to read your Bible than it would be to watch a movie.

JonMiller · Jun 10, 2007

Hey, I don't really watch TV. I browse forums instead

JM

woobadooba · Jun 10, 2007

mjona3 said:
Hey, I don't really watch TV. I browse forums instead

JM

At least in a forum you can witness. You can actually communicate with people. Thus you can be productive.

You can't do these things while your face is glued to a TV

Mankin · Jun 10, 2007

Yeah, I know Adventists used to be against competive sports, some of the super conservative ones still are. A movie is like a book except more visual and it usually doesn't increase your knowledge like a book does. Not going to a movie theater because they show bad movies is like not reading a certain book because the book company publishes some bad books. The book or movie is what matters not the place.

TrustAndObey · Jun 10, 2007

I'm curious as to what other people think about this....

Is acting, lying?

Mankin · Jun 10, 2007

Hmmm. I would say not, because acting is just pretending to be someone else. It's like doing imitations or impressions.

TrustAndObey · Jun 10, 2007

Mankin said:
Hmmm. I would say not, because acting is just pretending to be someone else. It's like doing imitations or impressions.

Isn't pretending lying though?

Eila · Jun 10, 2007

TrustAndObey said:
Isn't pretending lying though?

My little ones like to pretend. One likes to pretend to be a cat and the other likes to pretend to be a baby. Yesterday they were running around pretending to find buried treasure.

JonMiller · Jun 10, 2007

If people know you are pretending, how is it lying? Isn't it rather dramatic story telling?

JM

woobadooba · Jun 10, 2007

Mankin said:
A movie is like a book except more visual and it usually doesn't increase your knowledge like a book does. Not going to a movie theater because they show bad movies is like not reading a certain book because the book company publishes some bad books.

Well, if Zondervan, Lighthouse, Berean Books, etc..., published books that contain immoral content, you would certainly have a point here. However, they don't. Therefore, your point is moot.

TrustAndObey · Jun 10, 2007

mjona3 said:
If people know you are pretending, how is it lying? Isn't it rather dramatic story telling?

JM

Kind of along the same lines as our other discussion....if one of the actors is married and they kiss the actress in the movie with them, was it a real physical kiss or was it just a pretend kiss (even though their lips actually touched)?

They might be pretending to have feelings for the person they're kissing, but it's still a kiss, right?

If you pretended you didn't have AIDS wouldn't it be the same as lying about not having AIDS?

I'm trying to figure this out for myself too, I'm not convinced either way. Just talking out loud really.

JonMiller · Jun 10, 2007

You know that in some cultures kissing is standard greeting among freinds?

Now some actors really have sex on screen (for the movie). That's real sex.. I don't see how it relates?

About your AIDs comment, that is a different definition/connotation of pretended. The english language is amazing in it's complexity and abstraction.

JM

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