The Worst Pro-Choice Argument

[Dream]

I used to debate a lot in a political forum. One time I got into a heated argument with somebody about abortion, and there was something he said that just made me so mad.

His argument was this: abortion has been shown to reduce crime. If you look at the time period when abortions occur and look 20 years into the future, you'll see that there is less crime than previously. This is because a lot of the would be criminals were aborted.

Now let me remind, these guys are die hard liberals. They pretty much followed everything that Michael Moore and Ted Kennedy said.

So let's take a look at their logic:

The death penalty is wrong. It is wrong to execute people even if they have commited terrible crimes. That's not right. We shouldn't kill those on death row because we might kill an innocent man.

Abortion is right. It is right to kill somebody who has a potential to be a criminal since they are born in a poor family or don't have a father figure. We should kill those in the womb because we might kill a criminal.

I'm sorry, but this just made me so *%!& mad.

 

[Paul S]

Cor Jesu sacratissimum, miserere eis.
Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, et omnes Sancti, orate pro eis.

We need to pray for people like this. Maybe the Holy Ghost can change their minds if we can't.

 

[Dream]

We need to pray for people like this. Maybe the Holy Ghost can change their minds if we can't.

Yea, I know.

 

[Wiffey]

Hey, that argument sounds an awful lot like social & genetic engineering! Ah, Eugenics...something advocated by such minds as Adolf Hitler & Margaret Sanger.




Wiffey

 

[ZooMom]

Yeah, and following that logic we might kill the person to find the cure for AIDS, or cancer.

Where is the smilie when you need one. Good grief.

 

[Paul S]

Here you go.

 

[seebs]

No, that's not the worst ever. Worst ever, which I saw on Kuro5hin once, was "people used to do herbal abortions all the time, it's obviously moral".

(I'm not really debating, so much as flatly contradicting. Yeah, that's the ticket!)

 

[ShannonMcCatholic]

No, that's not the worst ever. Worst ever, which I saw on Kuro5hin once, was "people used to do herbal abortions all the time, it's obviously moral".

(I'm not really debating, so much as flatly contradicting. Yeah, that's the ticket!)

Well if it's herbal- it must be natural...

 

[Victrixa]

Yeah, and following that logic we might kill the person to find the cure for AIDS, or cancer.

I was thinking the same thing. We could be killing off the next Mozart or saint or discoverer of a cure for cancer, etc. No matter what, killing a baby is utterly sick!

 

[Estefana]

There are other ways to help people in lower social econimoc areas then by aborting their babies.

They make me sick sometimes

 

[Caedmon]

The death penalty is wrong. It is wrong to execute people even if they have commited terrible crimes. That's not right. We shouldn't kill those on death row because we might kill an innocent man.

I agree with this one.

Abortion is right. It is right to kill somebody who has a potential to be a criminal since they are born in a poor family or don't have a father figure. We should kill those in the womb because we might kill a criminal.

Ah yes, the old God-forbid-that-someone-should-grow-up-in-a-single-parent-home-because-then-they-might-develop-neuroses-so-let's-just-kill-them-in-the-womb-instead argument. First of all, it deprives someone of even the chance at life, as if they have no hope. (What would Frederick Douglass say?) Secondly, it denigrates and makes false claims about those who did come from single parent homes and who established themselves as valuable members of the community.

 

[Dream]

I agree with this one.

Just to make sure this clear, I agree with this too. I am against the death penalty except for extremely rare cases.

 

[frettr00]

Reminds me of that movie Minority Report, read the future...arrest the criminal before he commits the crime..

 

[AdJesumPerMariam]

I just can't understand why pro-choicers can't understand the word 'a-d-o-p-t-i-o-n'!
We have so many people waiting for a child, and these people will love them, and want them.

 

[Estefana]

Pro Choicers often use the selfish excuse of 'But giving the baby up for adoption means I have to be pregnant for 9 months for nothing and get fat and have no money'.

It is not all about you in this world. They need to stop saying I and start saying 'baby'.

 

[gzt]

No, that's not the worst ever. Worst ever, which I saw on Kuro5hin once, was "people used to do herbal abortions all the time, it's obviously moral".

(I'm not really debating, so much as flatly contradicting. Yeah, that's the ticket!)

Whoa, dude, you're a K5er? There used to be a man there with the username "Recreational Abortion". Yeah, if you ever want to see sloppy atheistic argumentation by stereotypical g**ks, that's definitely the place to go.

 

[Father Rick]

I used to debate a lot in a political forum. One time I got into a heated argument with somebody about abortion, and there was something he said that just made me so mad.

His argument was this: abortion has been shown to reduce crime. If you look at the time period when abortions occur and look 20 years into the future, you'll see that there is less crime than previously. This is because a lot of the would be criminals were aborted.

Now let me remind, these guys are die hard liberals. They pretty much followed everything that Michael Moore and Ted Kennedy said.

So let's take a look at their logic:

The death penalty is wrong. It is wrong to execute people even if they have commited terrible crimes. That's not right. We shouldn't kill those on death row because we might kill an innocent man.

Abortion is right. It is right to kill somebody who has a potential to be a criminal since they are born in a poor family or don't have a father figure. We should kill those in the womb because we might kill a criminal.

I'm sorry, but this just made me so *%!& mad.

All I have to say is

 

[Aaron-Aggie]

How about a postive Pro Life Argument:
http://www.angelinthewaters.com/onlinebook/coverpage.htm

 

[seebs]

Whoa, dude, you're a K5er?

Been there on and off. Can be a pretty good place, can be pretty pointless.

 

[PolskiKrol]

I know how frustrating it can be to argue with people about abortion. Normally I can make a good case, but there are a few whom words cant change.

I was wearing a prolife shirt to school and a girl told me she was prochoice (without any "hi". I knew this was going to be a tough one ) Anyway, she eventually said, "Yea, I believe its actually alive and everything, but I dont care if I kill it; im not having a baby before Im married."
Arg, I can argue with people who have some sort of respect for life but have convinced themselves that life doesnt start at conception. But this is totally different, and I think there are those influential in the movement that hold Jenn's opinion, that they dont care whether they kill or not.