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<blockquote data-quote="98cwitr" data-source="post: 73907343" data-attributes="member: 146610"><p>I'll drop my .02 on this, as it does seem to be an escalating situation with the monuments coming down to both the sounds of shouts of anger and cheers of gladness.</p><p></p><p>I was raised in Georgia my whole life, and moved to North Carolina with the explicit intention of staying in the South and remaining within Southern culture. I grew up around racism against black folks, and I grew up with an affection for African-American culture and history. We watched the riots of the 1960s, MLK and Malcolm X speeches, and saw the struggles during Jim Crow.</p><p></p><p>I personally never saw the confederate memorabilia (ie: monuments, statues, flags, antiques, etc) as symbolism for reminiscent affections for slavery or racism. I always saw them, especially the flag (because we saw that in south GA a good bit), as something that communicated an anti-tyranny message. I say that because I never met anyone who was pro-slavery; like truly would be happy to see it return. Everyone I know and knew all agreed that slavery was a horrid evil because of the dehumanization that occurred, even through Jim Crow after slavery was outlawed.</p><p></p><p>Was succession underpinned by keeping the institution of slavery legal? Yes, and anyone who is trying to change that fact is simply not being honest; potentially even with themselves if they really believe that. Does that mean anyone who has a battle flag sticker on their truck, or opposes the monuments being taken down is a pro-slavery white supremacist? I think that's a might big leap and is not only unfair to their individual perspectives, but attempts to demonize them into yet another collectivist groupthink effort.</p><p></p><p>On the surface the South succeeded state by state to oppose tyrannical taxation, tariffs, and the looming economic collapse of very prosperous industries that would have, and ultimately did, cripple the southern states into decades long recession. That said, maybe it was deserved. Building an economy on the backs of slave labor had to be paid for via economic hardship.</p><p></p><p>I think the greater sin of the South was Jim Crow. Race relations in England for example after slavery was outlawed did not resemble America; and that was because they immediately gave the slaves the human rights they deserved and citizenship they were entitled to. The South has yet to pay that sin off, and I am afraid that sin is being paid here and now with the destruction of Southern culture.</p><p></p><p>I for one identify as a Southern man as much as I identify as an American, but I must be a Christian first before these and that means I must be a lover of the Truth. In doing so, I fully reject the evils of racism and slavery and put those behind me as a descendant of Confederate patriots. In honoring their struggle against their perception of tyranny from the federal government, and their paramount efforts to combat it via succession and ultimately fighting for their own homeland and country, I do have some admiration for THAT effort specifically, all the while condemning the unpinning of the sins which the South needed to justly pay. Therefore I view the memorabilia in such light: A remembrance to always oppose tyranny, coupled with a love of cherished Southern culture; just as we did against the British during the American Revolution (of which I also had ancestors involved).</p><p></p><p>One could make the argument that such a view is simply cognitive dissonance, but I would simply say that it's putting all things into perspective and embracing the truth of the entire situation that unfolded on this great ground that the Lord provides.</p><p></p><p>Those who oppose tyranny for the wrong reasons will always ultimately fail, but serve as a valuable lesson to learn from. Those who oppose tyranny should never be forgotten, but we need to understand that we should always succumb to righteousness. The abolitionists were right and I simply wish our ancestors from the South had handled things differently. Unfortunately, we cannot change history. May God forgive us for our sins.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="98cwitr, post: 73907343, member: 146610"] I'll drop my .02 on this, as it does seem to be an escalating situation with the monuments coming down to both the sounds of shouts of anger and cheers of gladness. I was raised in Georgia my whole life, and moved to North Carolina with the explicit intention of staying in the South and remaining within Southern culture. I grew up around racism against black folks, and I grew up with an affection for African-American culture and history. We watched the riots of the 1960s, MLK and Malcolm X speeches, and saw the struggles during Jim Crow. I personally never saw the confederate memorabilia (ie: monuments, statues, flags, antiques, etc) as symbolism for reminiscent affections for slavery or racism. I always saw them, especially the flag (because we saw that in south GA a good bit), as something that communicated an anti-tyranny message. I say that because I never met anyone who was pro-slavery; like truly would be happy to see it return. Everyone I know and knew all agreed that slavery was a horrid evil because of the dehumanization that occurred, even through Jim Crow after slavery was outlawed. Was succession underpinned by keeping the institution of slavery legal? Yes, and anyone who is trying to change that fact is simply not being honest; potentially even with themselves if they really believe that. Does that mean anyone who has a battle flag sticker on their truck, or opposes the monuments being taken down is a pro-slavery white supremacist? I think that's a might big leap and is not only unfair to their individual perspectives, but attempts to demonize them into yet another collectivist groupthink effort. On the surface the South succeeded state by state to oppose tyrannical taxation, tariffs, and the looming economic collapse of very prosperous industries that would have, and ultimately did, cripple the southern states into decades long recession. That said, maybe it was deserved. Building an economy on the backs of slave labor had to be paid for via economic hardship. I think the greater sin of the South was Jim Crow. Race relations in England for example after slavery was outlawed did not resemble America; and that was because they immediately gave the slaves the human rights they deserved and citizenship they were entitled to. The South has yet to pay that sin off, and I am afraid that sin is being paid here and now with the destruction of Southern culture. I for one identify as a Southern man as much as I identify as an American, but I must be a Christian first before these and that means I must be a lover of the Truth. In doing so, I fully reject the evils of racism and slavery and put those behind me as a descendant of Confederate patriots. In honoring their struggle against their perception of tyranny from the federal government, and their paramount efforts to combat it via succession and ultimately fighting for their own homeland and country, I do have some admiration for THAT effort specifically, all the while condemning the unpinning of the sins which the South needed to justly pay. Therefore I view the memorabilia in such light: A remembrance to always oppose tyranny, coupled with a love of cherished Southern culture; just as we did against the British during the American Revolution (of which I also had ancestors involved). One could make the argument that such a view is simply cognitive dissonance, but I would simply say that it's putting all things into perspective and embracing the truth of the entire situation that unfolded on this great ground that the Lord provides. Those who oppose tyranny for the wrong reasons will always ultimately fail, but serve as a valuable lesson to learn from. Those who oppose tyranny should never be forgotten, but we need to understand that we should always succumb to righteousness. The abolitionists were right and I simply wish our ancestors from the South had handled things differently. Unfortunately, we cannot change history. May God forgive us for our sins. [/QUOTE]
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